monsterman

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 10 months ago

    Congrats Trevor and Sanagie! Well johnnyboy505, you certainly have the dubious honor of the longest wait ever reported, and you haven’t even reported any! The graph only goes up to 400 days! Usually I would caution people about pestering them too much with phone calls. But in your case I think you should be calling them daily until you get…[Read more]

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 10 months ago

    There is actually a link to this site directly under Silencershop’s graph. Since people using this site only report calendar days I don’t believe that Silencershop would be using a business day count (although that seems like a reasonable explanation kc7pwx). I also remember someone posting that Silencershop bought this site. If that’s true,…[Read more]

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 10 months ago

    I went to Silencershop.com this morning and looked at their tracker data. Underneath their graph it says that the data is taken from this site. But in the “individual form 4 paper” column they show 175 days from check cashing to approval. If you look at the same graph here it shows 276 days, over 100 days difference! Maybe it’s a simple error,…[Read more]

  • I think Bad Mojo that you have indeed won the ATF lottery! I wonder if Morphy’s (is this a gun shop?) has someone on the inside helping out. It would be interesting to know if anyone else who participated in your auction had similar luck. I am happy for you. Enjoy it!

    This does fly in the face of everything I’ve been told about the process…[Read more]

  • Well, looking at the tracker I think something strange happened. The dot plot was looking fairly normal with times actually dropping a bit. But then a blast of VERY recent submissions from Feb to June of this year! I have a theory. Someone was coming back from a coffee break and bumped into a stack of applications on an examiner’s desk. They…[Read more]

  • Congratulations Eric! That is a great can! Enjoy

  • And Chris….well, how to respond to a 7th grade insult… How about, same to you but more of it? Whatever. Good luck to you too.

  • That would be a great idea dtp! At times it does feel like a bait and switch operation with SS. But, there is nothing to do but wait. I have to say though, the memory of the wait fades pretty quickly once you get your suppressor. At least that’s been true for me. Good luck to you!

  • I usually take waiting in stride. Bitching about others being served before me only makes me look stupid. But I have to admit, as a “douche” individual, I’d love to get my stamp before Chris.

  • DTP, I think you are right about a surge in suppressor purchases. I don’t think the election is the reason. I just think the line has gotten really long. The video I mentioned in another thread provided some interesting statistics. There were about 900k suppressors sold in 2016 and 1.5 million in 2018, a bump of 600,000 purchases over two years!…[Read more]

  • That makes sense. I am a contemporary (69 years old) and I think we have a very different view about privacy. That is, we value it. We now live in an era where personal data is a valuable commodity (why Facebook is a $524 BILLION company), a commodity that most younger people are willing to offer up for free. In fact, people judge themselves by…[Read more]

  • Completely agree about the credit cards. Just note that the phone in your pocket, and the computer on your desk have robbed you of any anonymity you thought you had. Every search, every online purchase, where you drive, just to name a few, is all tracked. I won’t even start on Facebook and other social media sites and how they have sold your…[Read more]

  • PS. Here is the video I was talking about. https://youtu.be/1VWcGwPJQfc Great video. Worth watching, although it will just raise your blood pressure even more. The increase in suppressor sales is discussed at the 13:20 ish mark.

  • I’ve done this a few times and I think I understand the process. An application becomes active once the check has been cashed. It is then assigned to an examiner on a first-come, first-served basis. But they do not sort the individual form 4s from the trusts. If you end up on the desk of an examiner with a lot of trusts, then it is going to…[Read more]

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 11 months ago

    Wow David W, I’d have to sell my house to afford as many “toys” as you! It was mentioned in another thread that multiple submissions from the same person might now be treated together. I hope that will help you.

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 11 months ago

    Congratulations Tony B! I also have an Omega 300 in the wings! Excellent choice! 🙂

  • I just have to respectfully disagree about the day count. This tracker is based upon calendar days, not work days. The numbers people are posting on the tracker and writing about in their posts are calendar days. I do agree that the 10 month number given by the ATF workers is not very helpful but only because the range of wait times is so…[Read more]

  • The longer you wait the harder it is not to call. Of course everyone knows that calling does not improve your wait time. I try hard not to be a pest about calling. Still, the rush that comes with hearing that your stamp has been approved is a powerful driver. I’m actually pretty impressed with the people who answer the phones. They have…[Read more]

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 1 year ago

    I don’t understand your numbers Dean. Like coagula13 I wonder why it took 9 months between the time you bought your suppressor and when the check was cashed. I’ve never heard anything like that. According to the tracker the average is 28 days for that to happen. So 9 months? Also, with every suppressor I’ve purchased I’ve turned in the Form…[Read more]

  • monsterman replied to the topic Form 4 Individual in the forum Form 4 Questions 1 year ago

    I agree with all of the pet peeves people have listed about this site. For the fourth time I will register mine. It’s the bar on graph labeled, “F4 Individual – EFile”. According to Silencer Shop, “As of April, 2014 the ATF has not been accepting new Form 4 submissions via eForms.” So what data is represented on those bars on the 12 and 3…[Read more]

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