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  • #81773

    04freedom
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    ordered 9-15-16
    atf check cashed 10-25-16
    approved 8-11-17
    received ????

  • #81774

    Dnut
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    ordered 9-15-16
    atf check cashed 10-25-16
    approved 8-11-17
    received ????

    Damit guy’s, your getting my dick hard with these mid Oct.16 dates. I typically call on Fridays. But i also have a wait two working wks policy between calls. “No thats not a cucumber in my front pocket.But im happy to hear about this”

  • #81775

    Mike
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    BAH lol glad to see Oct, don’t want to call again and be told Pending

  • #81776

    Zac Higgins
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    Called and talked to Stephanie today was told they still have over 100,000 July pending.

    Form 4 individual

    Purchased 9/06/16
    Check cashed 9/16/16
    Approved ?

    • #81778

      Mike
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      I guess that could be true? If there are tons of people working on forms, and throw in a handful of July per pile..then maybe? but people are posting about Aug, Sept, and Oct already…

    • #81814

      TheTakeover
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      I find it very hard to believe they still have 100K July forms pending unless there were a TON of people who had issues or errors in their forms that needed to be corrected. That’s definitely likely though as I’m sure plenty of people rushed their forms to get them submitted on time.

    • #81989

      Zac Higgins
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      They must have worked though those 100000 fast because mine just got approved lol

      Purchased 9/06/16
      Check cashed 9/16/16
      Approved 8/17/17
      Stamp received?

  • #81779

    Dane
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    I have another pending to shorten the AK i filed first week of November. Not sure how i would feel if i got that approved before I got my can approved… But it is looking like a real possibility.

    • #81997

      Frijole Breeze
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      My can (10/2016) just came home. My SBR (8/2016) is still pending. The operator told me trust form 1s just take longer. I’m not sure I understand why, but that’s what I was told.

  • #81781

    Mike
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    haha all bets are off. Mines a 2 person trust, pending 10/19 is next in line….

  • #81788

    Gary O
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    I guess I’ll chime in,
    Form 4 individual
    suppressor purchased (balance paid) and in dealer’s hand 9-16-16
    purchased stamp through Silencer Shop kiosk 9-16-16
    check cashed on 11-1-16 thanks silencer shop 🙁 don’t know why it took a month and half to clear!
    called ATF and talked to Laura and she volunteered all the info that is already on here without me asking, so she must get hundreds of the calls a day/week. Laura said i would be looking at least 2 more months till it probably would be approved.

  • #81796

    sarge9667
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    Bought two suppressors on 15 Aug 16, an AAC M4-2000 and a AAC Ti-rant 45.
    Sent the forms 4 on 17 Aug 16 using identical trust paperwork, photos, and print cards. Even paid for both with same check. The NFA Branch was really quick getting the check cashed on 23 Aug 16.
    Called them up on 7 Aug 16 and found out that ONE of them was approved as of 2 Aug 16.
    The mailman dropped off the stamp yesterday but of course I was at work and am going to pick it up today.
    Can anybody give me any kind of logical reason why they would separate the two forms? You would think that keeping them together would make their job easier when the only differences between the two forms are the blocks that identify the items.
    And yes before anyone asks, I did update the tracker already.

    • #81798

      Dnut
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      Yep, not a un-common process. Ive been told two different story’s about this. Because I’ve had it done to me on form 1’s and form 4’s. The most common answer given has been that “some” offices separate all applications. And that way its a double checked process. Plainly there are different ways that SOP are interpreted for each office. Ive sent form 4’s in with 2 on one form. And got them approved on different dates by a month. There is no rhyme to there reasoning. Its best to submit your shit, and forget. Then like finding a rolled up $100.00 bill in your winter coat pocket. Its a nice surprise when the mail man or your dealer calls you.

  • #81810
    BMP
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    Its best to submit your shit, and forget.

    Yes, this. I’ve waited 48 years to be able to own a suppressor. Iowa passed the law last year. I waited till the first of the year to purchase one. Several months or a year wait is nothing to me. I’m just friggin glad I can legally own one!

    Brad

  • #81831

    Mike
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    Any of you Post 41f guys have more than 1 person in your trusts?

  • #81837

    Dnut
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    Any of you Post 41f guys have more than 1 person in your trusts?

    Yes, i do. I have 3 plus me. (4).

  • #81838

    cwood
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    I have me + 1

    Any Post 41f trust being approved?

  • #81839

    Mike
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    I meant that had already been approved lol. yes there are a bunch

  • #81843

    duqjeep2010
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    Called today. Got the still pending status. She even told me it hasn’t been assigned to an inspector yet.

    Sig SRD762
    Purchased 6/21/16
    Dealer screwed around renewing their SOT so I missed 41F.
    Pending date 11/7/2016.

  • #81844

    Mike
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    Thats shitty did you have to send more forms after the fact?
    My LGS posted a 10/18 approval just now

  • #81847

    duqjeep2010
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    Thats shitty did you have to send more forms after the fact?
    My LGS posted a 10/18 approval just now

    No they just told me late August oh sorry BTW we never sent in your form so go get passport photos prints and fill out RPQs. Wasn’t exactly thrilled but I purchased it on the Sig APP program and they are the only APP dealer in my area with an SOT.

  • #81854

    Dnut
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    Thats shitty did you have to send more forms after the fact?
    My LGS posted a 10/18 approval just now

    No they just told me late August oh sorry BTW we never sent in your form so go get passport photos prints and fill out RPQs. Wasn’t exactly thrilled but I purchased it on the Sig APP program and they are the only APP dealer in my area with an SOT.

    Yikes, dude. You plainly got FUCKED. Sadly I’ve been hearing a lot of storys like this a yr later. Buyers that though they got in before the deadline. And a year later, you find out not. What a headache.

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  • #81860

    duqjeep2010
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    Thats shitty did you have to send more forms after the fact?
    My LGS posted a 10/18 approval just now

    No they just told me late August oh sorry BTW we never sent in your form so go get passport photos prints and fill out RPQs. Wasn’t exactly thrilled but I purchased it on the Sig APP program and they are the only APP dealer in my area with an SOT.

    Yikes, dude. You plainly got FUCKED. Sadly I’ve been hearing a lot of storys like this a yr later. Buyers that though they got in before the deadline. And a year later, you find out not. What a headache.

    Yeah at least they just didn’t send in old forms and wait for me to get rejected. Like I said it was the Sig APP program so I got the can at a big discount. If I were to have ordered some other way I would have would up paying shipping and then someone to do a Class III transfer which are $100 in this neck of the woods.I would have been better off ordering through SS at that point.

    • #81867

      Blake
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      Thats shitty did you have to send more forms after the fact?
      My LGS posted a 10/18 approval just now

      No they just told me late August oh sorry BTW we never sent in your form so go get passport photos prints and fill out RPQs. Wasn’t exactly thrilled but I purchased it on the Sig APP program and they are the only APP dealer in my area with an SOT.

      Yikes, dude. You plainly got FUCKED. Sadly I’ve been hearing a lot of storys like this a yr later. Buyers that though they got in before the deadline. And a year later, you find out not. What a headache.

      Yeah at least they just didn’t send in old forms and wait for me to get rejected. Like I said it was the Sig APP program so I got the can at a big discount. If I were to have ordered some other way I would have would up paying shipping and then someone to do a Class III transfer which are $100 in this neck of the woods.I would have been better off ordering through SS at that point.

      My dealer sent the old forms in by mistake and lucky me it only caused about a two week delay just called this morning and was told i was approved on Saturday Aug 12th

  • #81873

    Mike
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    I’m still waiting on any Post 41f trust approvals that have more than 1 person, not sure if that has happened

  • #81888

    cwood
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    NFA cashed my check on 10/11/16
    Multiple person trust on the 41F
    I just called they are working on August. I hope it won’t be long now!

  • #81900

    Blake61
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    Griffin Armament Recce 7
    Individual
    Check cashed 10/21/2016
    Form 4 approved 08/09/2017
    Stamp at dealer 08/14/2017
    Picked up 08/15/2017

  • #81924

    Barry
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    I was the first customer for my gun shop to submit after the 41f rules took affect for my suppressor.

    Atf check cashed 8/9/2016
    Received stamp at gun shop:7/27/2016

  • #81936

    Gary O
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    YHM Phantom LT 7.62
    check cashed 11-1-2016
    Approved 8-9-2017
    Stamp? 8-17-2017

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  • #81966

    Mike
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    called today cause I’m impatient…10/19/16 2 person trust, still pending 🙁

  • #81998

    Frijole Breeze
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    Recommended listening: AR-15 Podcast, episode 216. In this episode they have an interview with Silencer Shop. I’m only part way through so far, but there is interesting information on cycle times and a new process they set up with the ATF.

    One thing I found particularly interesting was a theory on why some post-41F applications seem to be coming in ahead of the curve.

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