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  • #101042

    RA
    Participant
    • Posts: 5
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Omega 300
    Silencer Shop – Single Shot Trust – 1 RP
    Purchased – 7/15/2018
    Check Cashed – 8/1/2018
    Approved – 7/5/19
    Stamp in Hand – ?

    338 days from check cashing to approval.

    • #104235

      RA
      Participant
      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      SilencerCo Omega 300
      Silencer Shop – Single Shot Trust – 1 RP
      Purchased – 7/15/2018
      Check Cashed – 8/1/2018
      Approved – 7/5/19
      Stamp in Hand – ?

      338 days from check cashing to approval.

      Stamp in hand 7/15/19

  • #102107

    Obiwang
    Participant
    • Posts: 2
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Surefire Socom SB
    Silencer shop, 1 person trust
    Check cashed-7/30/18
    Approved-7/5/18
    Stamp in Hand-???
    340 days from check cashing to approval
    at least it’s coming in a couple of weeks, right?

  • #104153

    Danglang
    Participant
    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Silencerco hybrid
    Purchased:7-3-2018
    Check cashed:7-24-2018
    Approved:6-24-2019
    Stamp in hand:7-9-3019
    372 from purchase date to stamp in hand.
    Dealer received the approval Saturday and was closed Sunday and Monday and was getting ready to call the received approvals but I called when I got off of work to see if they received it.
    Now the wait for the free octane

    • #104154

      BPagel
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      You still haven’t received your Silencerco free suppressor, the one they promised would be delivered last month?

      • #104168

        Danglang
        Participant
        • Posts: 3
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        Yes it was received, I was just stating that I moved on to the next wait

  • #104170

    Brandon
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Sent in 7/1/18
    Received 7/31/18
    And finally approved 7/5/19
    I called today on 7/9/19 and they told me I was approved on 7/5/19 I’ve called every other week for the last 3 months and never gave me anything other than pending and we are delayed due to gov shit down.. now waiting for the Dealer to call that it’s in hand and come pick her up

  • #104185

    lkwan78
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Dang I’m seeing lots of people are getting their approvals when they bought their can in June or July of 18 and is being approved in 350 days.

    My can has been in jail for 419 days!

    I’ll call the atf tomrrow and hopefully they have better news!

  • #104208

    Optman09
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Omega 300
    Silencer Shop – 2 person trust
    Purchased – 7/02/2018
    Check Cashed – 7/29/2018
    Approved – 7/5/19
    Stamp in Hand – 7/13/19

    Promo octane 9hd from summer promo
    F3 to dealer – 06/25/2019
    Check cashed – 07/09/19
    The wait continues

  • #104273

    thomas88
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Purchased suppressor from Silencer Shop via a Trust – 7/16/2018
    ATF Check Cashed – 7/31/2018

    Called the ATF yesterday, 7/18/19. I was told it was “Pending”. I politely asked several different ways if there was anything else they could check, if there was any other information, or anything I needed to do. I was met with obstinate silence, and “no”.

    This morning (one day later) my FFL sent me an email with an attached ATF “returned” letter dated 7/10/19 indicating Field 9, the Transferor signature, was invalid. It had been signed by a Silencer Shop rep, just like my last Form 4 was from Silencer Shop a couple years ago. When I called Silencer Shop about this, they indicated the laws changed back in July of 2018 such that the ATF would no longer accept the original seller’s signature, it now had to be the Transferor, in other words the FFL.

    Silencer Shop was helpful in resending docs via DocuSign to both me and my FFL for signatures, and indicated they would send them back to the ATF with the original rejection letter. They indicated turn around has historically been about 30 days or this type of situation.

    Notes:
    1) It’s been a week shy of a year since the ATF cashed my check.
    2) Apparently it is pointless to call them, because apparently all they do is ensure you have a form in their system and then tell you it is “Pending”, regardless if there is any sort of problem with it.

    Has anyone actually received any USEFUL information when calling the ATF???

  • #104276

    funkeruski
    Participant
    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Hybrid
    One Person Trust
    Purchased: 7/15/18
    Check Cashed: 8/13/18
    Approved: 7/18/19
    Stamp in Hand: ?

  • #104288

    Simon
    Participant
    • Posts: 7
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I just got out of the FBI background check “black hole”. Some advice:
    + If you have an arrest record but no corresponding disposition on record (i.e., if charges were dropped, sealed, etc.) and your are not disqualified, call the ATF, speak to your examiner, and volunteer to send him/her proof of disposition (usually a sealed certificate that can be obtained at the courthouse your case was heard). If this is your situation, this may be the only way to get out of the black hole.
    + Continue to call your examiner every 2 weeks or so. When they tell you the FBI has passed your check due to the documents you sent in, ask the examiner kindly if they can approve any other pending Forms 4 in the system at this same time. If you ask nice enough and your examiner is kind enough, they’ll do it for you.
    + In my experience, contacting Congresspeople did not do much, YMMV.

    Here’s data for 4 recently cleared:

    F4 Suppressor
    One Person Trust
    Check Cashed: 04/16/18
    Approved: 05/24/19
    Days Cashed to Approved: 403 days

    F4 SBR
    One Person Trust
    Check Cashed: 05/07/18
    Approved: 05/29/19
    Days Cashed to Approved: 387 days

    F4 Suppressor
    One Person Trust
    Check Cashed: 06/25/18
    Approved: 06/03/19
    Days Cashed to Approved: 343 days

    F4 Suppressor
    One Person Trust
    Check Cashed: 06/30/18
    Approved: 06/11/19
    Days Cashed to Approved: 346 days

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