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  • #95714

    Shawn Farrell
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 trust submitted June 2018: fee collected 7/11/18: approved May 25, 2019. 318 days

    • #95976

      Rob
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      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      My check was cashed on the same day 7/11/18 and I am still waiting. 11 months now and all I here from the ATF is: “still pending”. No kidding. Is there any avenue I can use to understand why it is taking so long? I’m a government contractor with a security clearance and a squeaky clean life. I even severed on a contract for the ATF two years ago. Seems like they are reinventing the wheel for every background check. Any guidance?

  • #95720

    ShooterGibbs
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    • Posts: 20
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I havent visited website in awhile, since my last purchase in 2017. Its unbelievable how long the process is taking for a suppressor now. Seems about a year average. And to think I used to bitch about waiting 4 months. Anyways. I purchased a GSL GT-Mag suppressor for my 300 PRC. And mailed in on 5-13-19. So the long wait begins.

  • #95966

    JohnSleik
    Participant
    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SiCo Sparrow
    Silencer Shop – Single Shot Trust – 1 RP
    Purchased – 8/27/2018
    Check Cashed – 9/5/2018
    Approved – still pending as of 6/6/2019
    Stamp in Hand – ?

    SiCo Hybrid
    Silencer Shop – Single Shot Trust – 1 RP
    Purchased – 8/27/2018
    Check Cashed – 9/5/2018
    Approved – still pending as of 6/6/2019
    Stamp in Hand – ?

    I called, said they were running about 9 months, i said i am at 9 months, she said call back in 3 weeks

  • #95975

    JoeyM
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Purchase, 8/21/18
    Check cashed, 9/2/18
    6/10/19- status still pending
    Just ridiculous time frame!
    (One Shot Trust)

  • #95978

    jared
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    2 cans purchased 5/11/2018 under one SS NFA Gun Trust from dealer (PBT)

    Sandman S:
    check cashed 7/3/2018
    approved 5/18/19
    stamp at dealer ready for pickup 6/6/19

    omega 9k:
    check cashed 7/3/2018
    approved ?
    stamp at dealer ?

    seems to be proof there is pretty much no consistency in wait times, also the “my orders” on SS doesn’t say my sandman s got approved, so if you want to know for sure then call. but best thing to do is be patient and the call that its ready will catch you by surprise!

  • #95979

    jared
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    (edited) duplicate reply, oops

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  jared.
    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  jared. Reason: posted twice on accident
  • #96015

    Robert
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Silencer Co:
    Omega 9K
    Hybrid
    2 SS quick shot trusts,
    1 person
    Both checks cashed 6/26/18
    Both Approved 5/30/19
    Stamp at dealer 6/12/19
    338 days from check cashed to approval.
    Called twice, once after shutdown in March – pending.
    Called again last week -approved.
    SS does make the submission very painless. But I can honestly say the wait is torture. Keep the faith, they’ll come in.

  • #96092

    BPagel
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    • Posts: 2
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Silencerco Hybrid 46
    Trust 1RP

    Cashed: 8/6/18

    Called: 6/13/19 (Pending)

    Was told still pending, asked if it had been sent to an examiner, she said no, and to call again in a month.
    Currently at 315 days.

    First post, sorry if the formatting is wrong.

  • #96105

    Strat212
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Yes!

    Rugged Obsidian 45
    Purchased: 5/8/2018
    Check Cashed 6/25/2018
    Paperwork received 6/26/2018
    Approved: 6/6/2019
    Stamp in hand: ????
    357 days since check cashed

    • #96118

      Strat212
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      • Posts: 10
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Stamp at Dealer: 6/17/2019

  • #96113

    David
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    • Posts: 2
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Maxim 9
    Purchased Jul 07 2018
    Paperwork Sent Jul 13 2018
    Check Cashed Jul 24 2018
    Approved Jun 11 2019
    Stamp ????

    SilencerCo Saker ASR 7.62
    Purchased Jun 23 2018
    Paperwork Sent Jul 13 2018
    Check Cashed Jul 21 2018
    Approved ?????

  • #96114

    Skispcs
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 Trust submitted 1 May 2018
    Check cashed 21 May 2018

    Just got notified on 17 June 2019 that the form 4 is at the dealer.

    I am usually delayed on background checks for firearm purchases so I assume that had something to do with mine taking so long.

  • #96125

    RA
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Omega 300 suppressor
    Form 4 Single Shot Trust
    Check cashed 8/1/18, 321 days ago (10.5 months)
    Called today, pending and not assigned to an investigator. Once assigned it will take approximately four weeks, so I’m looking at at least 11.5 months.

  • #96138

    JakAU78
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    • Posts: 13
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Purchased DA Sandman S through Silencer Shop on 7/26/19 (1st Can purchase)
    NFA Trust: 2 RP
    Check cashed on 9/17/18
    275 days as of tomorrow
    Called for the 1st time, 2-3 weeks ago and they said it was “pending”, will probably wait until the 290 mark to call again, at the time I did not know all the proper questions to ask but I will be better prepared next time

    Anyone out there have an approval from a September check cashing date? Staring to wonder if it is worth it….

    • This reply was modified 3 months ago by  JakAU78.
    • #96159

      kurt5364
      Participant
      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      For my oculus, ATF cashed check 26 Sept 2018. I’m tracking the wait time to be a year.

      I also have my surefire rc2 check cashed July 28 2018. I’m expecting this to be done in July 2019.

  • #96141

    JohnSleik
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    JakAU78
    What are the proper questions?

    • #96153

      JakAU78
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I am no expert but there are some of the questions I see posed on this forum….

      Has application been assigned to an examiner?
      Has the FBI finished review of the application?
      ……?

  • #96165

    Robert Menger
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Rugged Obsidian 45, Purchased through SS
    Form 4 Trust, one person
    Check cashed 28 Jul 2018
    Status: pending as of 29 May 2019 per NFA (325 days)

    Rugged Razor 7.62, Purchased through SS
    Form 4 Trust, one person
    Check cashed 28 Jul 2018
    Status: pending as of 29 May 2019 per NFA (325 days)

    Rugged Oculus 22, Purchased through SS
    Form 4 Trust, one person
    Check cased 13 Apr 2019
    Status: pending as of 29 May 2019 per NFA

    Guess it does not matter how many NFA Stamps one has submitted for, each one stands on its own. One year process seems like the norm. come on 28 Jul 2019, seems sad to root for a one year turn around.

  • #96166

    funkeruski
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    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Can we just agree to update this thread for approvals and/or items received? Do we really need updates from people that their items are “pending?”

  • #96176

    DownRangeTargetSports
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Hybrid
    Purchased June 16 2018
    Paperwork Sent June 27 2018
    Check Cashed Jul 16 2018
    Approved Jun 18 2019
    Stamp ????

    Called today and got the good news! Good thing I did not call on last Friday because I would of waited another few weeks.

    • #96195

      kurt5364
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      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      What is the info on calling in? Phone Number? What info you need to provide etc? I’m going to be almost a year in late July since my check was cashed. Thanks.

      • #98551

        Strat212
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        • Posts: 10
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        You will need the name of the FFL that the item is being transferred through/the shop the item is purchased from, your name or the name of the trust, and the serial number of the NFA item that is being transferred.

        BATF NFA Branch number: 304-616-4500. Do not call constantly, if you are close to a year then call at most once a week.

        • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  Strat212.
  • #96232

    Matt
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SCO Salvo and Harvester

    Purchased 7/15/2018

    Checks Cashed 8/3/2018

    Pending 06/21/2019

    Approved ????

    Stamp in Hand ????

    • #96233

      kurt5364
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      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      The tracker on this page is bluntly wrong. From my calculations it’s a year wait now.

      • #98553

        Strat212
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        • Posts: 10
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        Don’t use the 12 month average tracker, use the 3 month average tracker as it shows closer. Remember the tracker graphs use a calculation of an average of all the data inputted within a period of time, so of course nothing is going to show an exact frame for the wait, as the fact of being pushed out to close to a year is only a current occurrence within the past 2 months. The Wait time dot graph is showing a trend of long wait times from checks cashed from last June forward with a few short turn around time outliers. Also remember the graph is only as good as the information being put into it from the members of this site. So the principle of garbage in = garbage out will apply. Some people could have fat fingered or put in erroneous data that will through off averages.

  • #96324

    Norm
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Silencerco hybrid and Omega 300 from silencershop during the promotion 7/13/18 last year on one shot trusts.
    Check cashed for both 7/26/18
    Got the call this morning 6/21/19 that the stamps for both had come in – picked up today.

    • #97419

      kurt5364
      Participant
      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Mine was cash 7/25/2018 and still waiting. It is a sure fire rc2 5.56. 🙁

      Only wife and I are in the trust.

  • #96325

    Dan
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    My check cashed on 7/9/2018, still waiting…

    • #99096

      DBLJ
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      • Posts: 13
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      My stamp check cash date- 1/20/18.

      528 days as of 7/3/19, still waiting.

      Now, with the average wait being about 320 days more or less, there should also be an outlier where a lucky applicant would get his stamp after only 112 days. Which is extremely unlikely.

      The key to being one of the fortunate whose application is approved at the average 320 days is the good fortune of your application landing on the desk of a conscientious reviewer and getting an FBI agent doing background checks who’s likewise diligent.

      I seem to have found slackers working my application. It’s disgraceful.

  • #98554

    Obiwang
    Participant
    • Posts: 5
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Surefire Socom SB
    Check Cashed Jul 30th 2018
    Approved ????
    Stamp ????

    1 person trust. Close to 330 days, just called today, still pending, not even being assigned to an examiner yet, fml

    • #98620

      kurt5364
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      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I feel your pain.

  • #98994

    DanJ
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    • Posts: 9
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Yes!

    Rugged Obsidian 45
    Purchased: 5/8/2018
    Check Cashed 6/25/2018
    Paperwork received 6/26/2018
    Approved: 6/6/2019
    Stamp in hand: ????
    357 days since check cashed

    Im a year behind you.
    Purchased same item 5/3/19
    Check cashed 6/27/19
    Now my endless wait begins.
    Hope you have fun with that. I have two hosts just waiting for the approval in in a year or so….

  • #99011

    Matt
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I can finally join the club. Just received my stamp Friday.
    Sent to the ATF mid-June, last year, check cashed 7/4/18, approved 05/04/19. I’d like to say exactly when my dealer received the stamp, but my dealer never called me to notify me. As I’ve heard several folks waiting about a year, I assumed I was in the same boat. Called the ATF Friday morning to check the status, and learned it had been setting at the dealer nearly two months.

  • #99032

    FlaMan
    Participant
    • Posts: 29
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Omega 300 & Omega 9k from Summer Promo

    Purchased Silencershop 1 RP Trust: 7/06/2018

    Checks Cashed: 7/23/2018

    Pending: 7/25/2018

    Approved: 6/27/2019

    Stamps in Hand ????

    Both freebies arrived at Dealer 6/27/2019. Same day ATF approved both purchased cans.

    Forms sent for Freebies 6/28/19. The wait continues…..

  • #99507

    Buster McNutt
    Participant
    • Posts: 2
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SilencerCo Sparrow
    Silencer Shop – Single Shot Trust – 2 RP
    Purchased – 9/1/2018
    Check Cashed – 9/7/2018
    Approved – pending as of 6/28/2019
    Stamp in Hand – ?

    When I purchased my Sparrow the ATF had an estimate wait time of 7 months. I called in March and they said it was about a 9 month estimate. (After the 2 month shutdown, that makes sense)
    When I called in late June (10 months after check cashed) they told me to call back in 3 weeks. I asked them what their “New” estimated wait time was and they said they’re averaging at 11 months. For some reason there was an additional 2 month delay.

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