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  • #78063

    BrewDaddy
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    After I posted earlier I sent my FFL a snippy email and he said they should be getting their license back next Tuesday…. and my goodies should be available by then…

    You’ll forgive me if I don’t hold my breath on this….

    grrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • #78064

    DES in Bellaire
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I think the confusion arises from the 12-month moving average on the front page vs. the 3-month moving average which is more accurate given the growing lead time over the last few months.

    Just look at the 3-month moving average graph, and you will see that the average pending period is 244 days, as opposed to the 181-days of the 12-month graph (Form 4 Trust).

    Anyway we shall see which is correct: my check cashed 7/22/2016, should have a stamp issued in about two weeks, if my theory is correct.

    • #78069

      geclevel
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      Good luck. Realistically you will have your stamp issued 2nd-3rd week of April.

      • #78113

        DES in Bellaire
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        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        Yes, I think you are right. Most recent approvals have taken 267 days, which would put me at 4/14, however extrapolating the trend from check cashing last May to last June appears that the processing time increases by 16 days for each month. So another 16 days: 4/30.

  • #78065

    Tyler1990561
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    How do I turn off emails from this thread thanks new to the site

    • #78114
      Biggdawg
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      click on your name in a post, it will bring you to your profile, look for the link on left that says subscriptions, click the x by each subscription that deletes them.

  • #78071
    Biggdawg
    Biggdawg
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    happy days, just called on my form 4 for my sandman Ti she said it was approved yesterday 3/8/2017 check was cashed june 14th 2016.

    now the wait to get to my dealer they say up to 30 days? hell i could drive there in less than that.

    can bought 4-15-16
    form 3 done 6-9-16
    form 4 sent in 6-11-16
    check cashed 6-14-16
    approved 3-8-17
    received ??

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by Biggdawg Biggdawg.
  • #78075

    Kawgomoo
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    They tell you 30 days, meaning they won’t issue a certified copy until 30 days has passed if you haven’t got your stamp yet. The snail mail is taking about 5-6 days right now, thats from West Virginia to Arizona. You might get yours sooner if you’re closer to WV

    • #78076
      Biggdawg
      Biggdawg
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      cool yes i have looked and most guys are getting them 7-12 days after approval. i am in iowa so that may help too. thanks.

  • #78083

    Kawgomoo
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    Just talked to ATF. She says they are on June applications right now. Mines from the 12th, not yet approved. YMMV

  • #78092

    craigan
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Was contacted by NFA Branch today.

    Polytech PF85 AKMS – forms went “Pending” on June 14, 2016.
    Was notified TODAY that forms are being returned for correction because the dealer incorrectly entered some information.

    It was supposed to be approved yesterday. In the mail today…Now it’s at minimum another 3 weeks.

  • #78097

    Tin Cup
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    I called yesterday to check on my form 4 trust that went pending on 6/13. Still pending, the nice lady on the other end said to expect at least another month. I really hope that means tI’ll the stamp is at my dealer and not till approval.

    I see people getting approved right around my date and am starting to get anxious.

    • #78099

      Flagflyfish
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      I called today also, Form 4 trust pending 6/14, still pending…….

    • #78143

      AZdavid
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      Another month!? Mine cashed the day after you 6/14. Man I’m glad I didn’t wait until July, I can only imagine how long that will take…

  • #78104

    dunst
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    Form 4 trust.
    Cashed-6/13/16
    Approved-3-6-17
    Tracker-Updated.

  • #78130

    niner614
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    Form 4 trust
    Purchased 5/26/16
    Cashed 6/2/16
    Approved 2/23/17
    Received 3/10/17
    Tracker Updated

  • #78134

    Thumbtack
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    Of course the stamp shows up the day I’m leaving town for almost two weeks 🙁

    Form 4 Trust
    Cashed 06/14/2016
    Approved 03/04/2017
    Received 03/10/2017
    Tracker Updated

    • #78142

      AZdavid
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      I should be close! My check cashed the same day as yours 6/14/16.

    • #78154

      pranavdc
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      I have a 6/14 check cashed date also. I called Friday and I am still pending….

    • #78156

      Dshot1
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      What state are you in. Mine was approved at the same time but no stamp yet. Who was your examiner?

      • #78157

        pranavdc
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        I am in Indiana.

        • #78161

          Dshot1
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          You would think I would have gotten mine by now. I live in North Carolina. The examiner may be on the approved stamp or try callin. Since it was approved they should give it to you.

      • #78158

        AZdavid
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        I’m in Arizona. I don’t know how to check my examiner. Do you just call them? I was hoping to have it for coyote season but that came and went!

        • #78162

          Dshot1
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          Join Date: 10/12/2016

          I’m gonna wait til things settle down before buying another suppressor or SBR. too much frustration. I have a pistol can and soon to be a .30 cal can and that should cover anything I have. I still think there are good examiners who work all day and examiners that spend the better part of their day goofing off. Too bad they all can’t be good.

          • #78163

            AZdavid
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            I can sympathize. But I think it’s important to support the industry right now. Even if it takes a long time we are helping the cause by buying their products.

            • #78169

              Flagflyfish
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              Join Date: 10/12/2016

              While I understand that we need to support the industry, I am starting to feel that a right delayed is a right denied. For it to take 9-10 months to look at a piece of paper is ludicrous. To me, its not the paperwork, the background check, or even the $200 tax, its the ongoing and lengthening waiting period..
              I’ll wait awhile for the next one or two…

              • This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by  Flagflyfish.
  • #78147

    TrooperBrian
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    Zero sympathy for yall. I have two approved cans with stamps sitting next to them I won’t be back to pick up until June. XD

    • #78149
      BMP
      BMP
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      Where are you at TB?

      Brad

  • #78155

    Dshot1
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    My form 4 Trust had a cashed date of 6/12 and was approved 3/4/2017. Nearly a year after I purchased it. Ridiculous. I still have not been called by the dealer. Go figure!!? Hang in there with the 6/14 date. It may have been approved by now or the near future.

  • #78160

    EdMac
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    My Form 4 Trust, check cashed June 13th, 2016, Approved 3/3/2017 and picked it up at my dealer today 3/11/2017.

    Tracker data updated.

    Have another Form 4 Trust for a second suppressor check cashed June 14th 2016, will update when received.

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by  EdMac.
    • This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by  EdMac.
  • #78167

    Tin Cup
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Dshot1,
    I won a .22 suppressor from Thompson Machine on 3/1/2016. Form 3 was filed in 2 days. That didn’t get approved until middle of June. My form 4 was dine as soon as my dealer got the can. At ATF on 6/22. So I have been waiting for over a year now. And don’t expect that one till mid April. If I’m lucky.

    Hopefully my 6/13 on is any day now…

  • #78175

    abetz
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I’m a vary patient person but seriously!! These waiting times are a joke. If this is the best they can do then something is wrong with the System. Unbelievable.

  • #78197

    Mr O’Crap
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Starting to get extremely irritated…

    I tried calling ATF this morning to get an update regarding my suppressor. All calls are going straight to voicemail now. You can’t even talk to a person anymore?!

    Form 4 Trust
    Submitted: 07/05/16
    Pending: 07/11/16

    Current wait time: 246 days and counting…

    My CC was going to expire soon and I didn’t want to risk it being declined for a bad expiration date, so I paid with a cashier’s check. I don’t know when the check actually cleared, if it even has cleared yet.

    • #78198

      AZdavid
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      You are going to be a while. Go to the bank that issued the cashiers check and they can tell you when it cleared. That’s what I did.

  • #78200

    IRPamlico
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Information posted in tracker:

    In stock
    Purchased 6/8/16
    Form 4 Trust sent 6/10/16
    Check Cashed 6/20/16
    Approved 3/11/17

    Called at 7:00am this morning and got confirmation on approval from ATF. Now waiting for stamp to arrive.

    • #78212

      pat
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Yes! You are one day ahead of my submission.

      Bought the suppressor on 6/9/16, check posted to my account 6/21/16.

      Waits almost over.

  • #78209

    Steve
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Placed order on silencershop 5/1/2016
    Form 4 (trust) submitted 6/8
    Check cashed 6/13
    Form 3 disposed 7/11
    Got the call that my stamp was in today 3/13/2017

  • #78215

    tedmun7164
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Griffin Recce 7 Mod 3
    Check Cashed – 6/10/17
    Approved – 3/12/17
    Received – N/A

    Gemtech GM-45
    Check Cashed – 6/10/17
    Approved – 3/12/17
    Received – N/A

    Gemtech GM-22
    Check Cashed – 6/10/17
    Approved – 3/12/17
    Received – N/A

  • #78220

    Dshot1
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Go figure?? Got my approval on 3/4/2017 and still have not received my stamp. I guess I got a lazy examiner?? The dealer I’ve been working with isn’t very forthcoming. It’s a shame you nearly have to wait nearly an entire year to get the darn thing only to wait up to another 30 days to get the stamp from the dealer. How is that approvals nearly a week after mine already have their stamps??

  • #78227
    hotsmokinbrass
    hotsmokinbrass
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I Purchased three SilencerCo suppressors, through SPEC program dealer June 16, 2016.
    All three of my checks were cashed June 28, 2016.
    I called NFA branch today and was advised that all three remain pending. I was additionally told that they were just beginning to work on early June 2016 transfers.
    The NFA branch recording still says “eight months” which is already in my rearview mirror; I’m presently at 258 days and counting since checks were cashed. Tick. Tock.

  • #78234

    dirtybird7890
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Hotsmokingbrass, im right there with you with check cashed dates of june 27th.Today is my 260th day.I called last week and the lady said it should be done in march,but couldnt tell me beginning,middle,or end of march.Just continuing to wait.My july 11th submission is gonna suck,as im already 246 days into the waiting game on it.Im figuring around the 10 month mark on both

  • #78237

    Ruby
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    @Dshot1,
    I feel your pain, I have a check cashed date of 5-30-16
    I Called ATF mid Feb2017 and was told it was close to approval.
    Figured I would just wait until the dealer (Dakota Silencer) called to let me know
    the stamp was in. I figure any time now, but sure sucks seeing some check cashed dates of 6-6-2016
    and later have their stamp and are done with the wait while I sit empty handed.

  • #78288

    allblues
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    AAC Element ll. Check cashed 6-10-16, approved 2-28-17, picked up at dealer 3-12-17.

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