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    • #74219
      Kawgomoo
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      The ATF is still working on April approvals, with a smattering of reported May approvals.

      June submissions won’t be here this year, you can give up all hope on that.

    • #74222
      Flagflyfish
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      Wow Kawgomoo……you sure are a ray of sunshine…LOL

    • #74224
      Kawgomoo
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      lol i know right? Having 20G’s or so out floating around for the past 8 months has made me rather bitchy…

    • #74229
      huggytree
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      some of us have much more than $20,000 waiting

      but congrats on buying something very nice!

    • #74230
      Kawgomoo
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      You mean to tell me i could have got more for the kidney?

    • #74286
      TrooperBrian
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      Well I have one check cashed April 7th, I’m hoping it’ll be back before I leave for a trip in a week! I suppose I could call and check tomorrow.

    • #74287
      Kawgomoo
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      I got a 5/12 submission approved today. 11/07

      • #74288
        djunkinsdjunkins
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        Congratulations! Looks like you got in under the wire before the 41F crunch started, when it was “only” 6 months. ?

    • #74292
      gernest2
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      I mailed a form 4 trust April 30 and check cashed May 4th as of October 31 it was still pending. Maybe I should give em a call back

    • #74293
      Kawgomoo
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      Wait time was 5 months on the ATF answering machine when i submitted, took 5.99999 months lol. so i guess they were right!

    • #74295
      sc63sallad
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      Aw man. Kawgomoo, it was an F4 trust? Holy crap.

    • #74296
      TrooperBrian
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      I agree, such variance on times!

    • #74297
      sc63sallad
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      Mere speculation but to me it seems to be somewhat examiner dependent as well as workload. You get lucky and draw one of the old hands you get your toys faster.

      • This reply was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by sc63sallad.
    • #74302
      Kawgomoo
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      F1 Trust Efile. Examiner was Jason Forsh…… something {couldn’t read the chicken scratch}. lol

      Ive got 2 may 15 Trust Paper F4’s pending, so ill let you know when i see those.

    • #74304
      TrooperBrian
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      Ok I take that back then, pretty consistent on times. Six months on F1, seven months on F4.

    • #74305
      sc63sallad
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      Might be Frushour…he’s on one of my form 4s.

    • #74308
      Iclimbaz
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      So the Efile for form 4 has been down since 2014?? If this is true, why are there new submissions on the graph?!?

      • #74312
        sc63sallad
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        A lot of people mistakenly put that they e-filed a form 4 when it was really a form 1. You’re always going to have people who don’t understand how to input the data and skew it.

        • #74313
          Iclimbaz
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          Worst news EVER!!

    • #74310
      TrooperBrian
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      As a scientist I would take scrutiny to the outlying data points, and use standard deviation tolerances to remove the erroneous values. There are a lot of people who fill out the points incorrectly on this website and it skews the actual data. For example I have seen a lot of people who put “Form 4 Trust” as the type and then SBR as the item. Is it possible they’re buying a factory SBR? Yes. But those types of points should have an extra verification process.

      • #74343
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        That is coming. I wanted to get the graphs back online so people would see progress. In the next few weeks we will work on getting rid of the outlying points.

      • #75167
        shadow
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        There’s just that one point on F4 Paper Trust graph, 495 days, that’s compressed the y-axis so that the graph is a lot harder to work with. I’d really like to see that point deleted.

    • #74346
      TrooperBrian
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      I called today, they updated the voice menu to say 8 months turn around time. A form from April 3rd is still in Pending status. I’m hoping it will be done before I head out of town in a week, but that seems slim. Unless they somehow approve it tomorrow.

      Americans paid almost $100 MILLION in tax stamps, and they are dying to hire two more people.

    • #74348
      Ingram M10
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      Update to former post.
      Just in time for the election!

      Form 4 Trust
      Submitted: 3/29
      Approved: 10/31
      Stamp arrived: 11/8

      Pretty fast turn around, as I was told that the stamp may not arrive before 12/1.

    • #74354
      DragonARDragonAR
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      hopefully i get my stamp soon. My cash check/card charged was 3/28. cant wait to get my Omega 9k

    • #74360
      sc63sallad
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      Looks like they’re updating the graph, shifting the dates a month or so to the left. I suspected they weren’t really into April yet…

      • #74362
        NFA TrackerNFA Tracker
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        The data was correct but it wasn’t communicating with Google Graphs. It has been fixed so we should be good to go now. If you see any bugs let me know.

        There are still some from April but it looks like it shifted back about 2 weeks.

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by NFA TrackerNFA Tracker.
    • #74368
      Flagflyfish
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      geez…….it just keeps changing, are we going to get some stable graphs? How can all the graphs be so far apart? How can what’s been entered be wrong by 2 weeks?

      • #74369
        NFA TrackerNFA Tracker
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        It is stable now. The issue is that Google was reading the data wrong for the graph. The data was correct but was importing wrong. It is good now.

    • #74371
      TrooperBrian
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      How are people getting their credit card charged? Did I miss a memo somewhere?

    • #74378
      hyla8221
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      Hey NFA Tracker team. I have seen a ton of complaints about the new website and no thank yous. I wanted to drop you guys a quick line and say thank you for your efforts and the new site looks great! Last time I checked, I haven’t paid dime to use this site/service and therefore appreciate you efforts much more than a paid for service. I appreciate what do and can’t wait for my cans to get out of jail!

      For all those that complain well…. screw them!

      • #74395
        NFA TrackerNFA Tracker
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        Thanks for the support. This is something that people are passionate about so I understand that there is some frustration. Things have come along ways in just a week. You should see some new graphs and things today.

        As I’ve said in the past if there is something that you want to see chart wise then let me know. I have a list of suggestions that we are working on. The goal is to has as much data as possible for the NFA community.

      • #74453
        themadmax
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        hyla8221,
        I second the motion! NFA Tracker, thanks for doing this thankless job. You have been responsive to my multiple support requests, I have not paid a penny for the info provided here or the utility of such, yet the site is constantly getting better (thanks sponsors!). Keep it upz!

        • #74911
          B.Wilson
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          You clearly have no idea how much revenue a site like this can make with enough traffic. I do appreciate the service but highly doubt it is being crafted without profit in mind.

          BW

    • #74414
      Tack
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      My check was cashed April 4th and was approved November 8th. Form 4 trust, recce 5 suppressor.

      • #93582
        rscalzo
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        If you are really curious the date will. E stamped on the form you will get with the stamp.

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