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    • #111971
      tullamor
      Participant
      • Posts: 12
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Don’t feel so bad. I am on day 380 and this is my 3rd suppressor. Just called for the 2nd time, Feds said its in the Que. Why does it take so long? Crazy!!!

    • #111988
      Grant Chamberlain
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Texas silencer company Hunter purchased through SilencerShop.
      Purchased 1/15/21 backordered until 6/15/21
      Check cashed 6/18/21
      Status check ATF 3/10/22 pending

      266 days from cashed check ridiculous!
      420 days from purchase but I don’t blame anyone for the back order time glad to see more sold!

    • #111990
      Cmam
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Rex Silentium MG22 purchased at Mr Silencer, a Silencershop dealer
      Purchased 3/5/21
      Check Cashed 3/22/21
      Tax Stamp Approved 2/18/22
      Suppressor picked up at dealer 3/5/22

      Purchase to product in hand exactly 1 year.

    • #112017
      Michael
      Participant
      • Posts: 6
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Update:
      Purchased Dealer Stock 1/3/21
      Check Cashed 3/16/21
      Status of 3/31 PENDING

      380 days since check cashed
      452 days since purchased

      State Colorado…

      Starting to think something up with Colorado… 🤔

    • #112031
      Adam
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Rugged Obsidian 9.

      Purchase March 18, 2021
      Tax Stamp cashed April 6, 2021
      Approved March 30, 2022
      At dealer April 4, 2022
      I never called on it, at least it was delivered quickly, thought for sure I’d be in the 1 year since cashed, though I go by when I purchased it because that’s when we pay for the item. I really hope nothing goes wrong the efile, out of the 7 I own, this was by far the longest wait. Good luck to everyone else out there still waiting.

    • #112032
      Matt
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Dead Air Sandman-S and Dead Air Mask 22 through Silencer Shop.
      Purchased: June 20, 2021 & June 23, 2021.
      Tax Stamps Cashed: July 12, 2021.
      Stamps Approved: March 26, 2022.
      At Dealer: April 4, 2022.

      Given the times I’m seeing here and elsewhere, I don’t have much to complain about. My dealer left a voicemail since I couldn’t answer the phone when they called. I was expecting it to be the Obsidian 9 that was submitted in January via eForms, but was thrilled when the dealer brought out these two instead!

    • #112049
      TX-LR-Hunter
      Participant
      • Posts: 6
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Order 1 Placed: 4/14/21
      Check Cashed: 5/3/21
      Status as of 4/13/21: Pending

      Order 2 Placed: 5/24/21
      Check Cashed: 6/1/21
      Status as of 4/13/21: Pending

      346 days of waiting… I’m not holding my breath.

      Both are Single Shot Form 4’s via Silencershop here in Texas.

      • #112066
        Retired AF
        Participant
        • Posts: 4
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        I’m in the same boat, a single shot trust via Silencer Shop.

        Difference between Apr 7, 2021 and Apr 24, 2022:

        1 years 0 months 17 days
        or 12 months 17 days
        or 54 weeks 4 days
        or 382 calendar days

        Still pending per ATF.

      • #112068
        TX-LR-Hunter
        Participant
        • Posts: 6
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        As of 4/25/22 – Both Form 4 trust suppressors are still pending.

        357 days for the first one.
        328 days for the second one.

    • #112050
      Charles Schultz
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      UPDATE
      Rugged Razor
      Form 4 Single Shot Trust
      Purchased – 3/24/2021
      Tax Stamp Cashed – 4/13/2021
      Approval – 4/1/2022
      Stamp and Can Recieved – 4/13/2022

      Exactly 1 year. Odd, but HAPPY!

    • #112051
      Dan
      Participant
      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Form 4 EForm- Trust (single shot)
      Silencer shop
      Rugged Obsidian 9 FDE
      Purchased:1/02/2022
      Delivered to dealer:1/23/2022
      Check cashed: ?
      Approved: ?
      Stamp received:

      Been sitting on ready to certify on my account on SilencerShop for 2 weeks.
      Myself nor my dealer have received the “ready to certify” e-mail yet from SilencerShop.
      ATF Eform website was down again yesterday😥

      Edit: Remote certified with my dealer on 2/11/22.
      Called ATF today. They verified form 4 received on 2/11/22
      Still Pending.

    • #112071
      Smith
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Thunderbeast Ultra .338 Gen 1
      Traditional Trust through Silencer Shop
      Purchased: 12 March 2021
      Form 4 Trust signed & sent by transferor: between 12 March and 01 April 2021
      Form 4 Trust received by ATF: 01 April 2021
      Tax stamp check cashed: Unknown
      Tax stamp approved: Pending
      Tax stamp and can in hand: Pending

      Waiting 390 days since submission to ATF. Assuming check was cashed on 15 April 2021, waiting 376 days since then. Our government does a fine job of taking all the time they need to be very thorough.

    • #112075
      brayan
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Griffin armament Optimus Silencer shop single shot trust. Purchase 3/20/2021 Check cashed: 4/30/21 Approved: 4/19/22 Stamp in hand: TBD
      State PA

    • #112096
      Gman18214
      Participant
      • Posts: 22
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Playing the waiting game… impatiently…

      MAC 10 Machine Gun w/ Bowers Suppressor

      Purchased 4-10-21
      Check Cashed 5-20-21
      Still Pending 🙄

      What am I day like 351 since pending

      • #112136
        Gman18214
        Participant
        • Posts: 22
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        Bastards approved it on Jan 15th 2022 but sent the paperwork to the wrong person 🫣🫣🫣 Just my luck… It went from
        Guy in FL to a dealer down there where it was on consignment… I purchased it and they had to transfer it from
        Person to FFL in Florida, then form 3 to from his dealer to my local FFL which was approved in 1 day which I can’t believe… So it arrived in PA and I did the form 4 E file which I see is running about 120 days average wait time… fingers crossed

        • This reply was modified 6 months ago by Gman18214.
    • #112103
      TX-LR-Hunter
      Participant
      • Posts: 6
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Order 1 Placed: 4/14/21
      Check Cashed: 5/3/21
      Approved on 4/27/22
      Stamp in Hand on 5/13/22
      374 days total

      Order 2 Placed: 5/24/21
      Check Cashed: 6/1/21
      Status as of 5/13/21: Pending

      Both are Single Shot Form 4’s via Silencershop here in Texas.

      • #112141
        Gman18214
        Participant
        • Posts: 22
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        Did you e file?

    • #112133
      TexasFlood
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      ATF 90 Day Commitment….Same Wait Times?

      Not that anyone actually believed the ATF would hold true to it’s 90 day “commitment” but has anyone even actually seen a reasonable turnaround other than the cherry picked advertisements from silencershop? It’s been over 100 days now and my form 4 hasn’t even been assigned to anyone yet.

      • #112140
        Gman18214
        Participant
        • Posts: 22
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        Did you E-File or paper/mail form??

      • #112146
        Christopher
        Participant
        • Posts: 1
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        hear in Hot Springs Arkansas At The shop I work in seen the first 3 E-files done in January come back in 60 days later now all other e-files are 120+ days that’s form 4’s. I personally have 2 form 4 I submitted on 5/27/22 and patiently await my approval.

        • This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by Christopher.
    • #112161
      Steve
      Participant
      • Posts: 6
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Griffin Armament Optimus 9
      Silencer Shop through Dealer
      Form 4 Single Shot Trust
      Purchased: 05/08/2021
      Delivered to FFL: 05/08/2021
      Check cashed: 05/21/2021
      Approved: 06/14/2022
      Stamp to dealer: 06/27/2022
      415 days for the whole Shebang! Lets Go Brandon!

    • #112165
      Grant Chamberlain
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Texas silencer company Hunter purchased through SilencerShop.
      Purchased 1/15/21 backordered until 6/15/21
      Check cashed 6/18/21
      Status check ATF 7/3/22 pending not assigned. FJB and abolish the NFA, ATF and the GCA.

    • #112168
      Steve G
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Rugged Obsidian
      Purchased 5/10/2021
      Check cashed 6/10/2021
      Approved 6/27/2022
      412 days. Talked to FFL, he said approvals for new EForms are running 6-8 weeks. Absolute BS. They should address the backlog first. Oh well…

    • #112169
      VVinny01
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      +1000 on what Steve G said…..this is BS.

    • #112206
      Texheim
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Form 4 trust efiled and accepted in March 2022. Just called 8/2/22, nice lady said I was pending and the average was 100 days but since I’m past 100 days I should expect and email from them soon. WFT does that mean?

    • #112228
      mvasaturo
      Participant
      • Posts: 8
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      SilencerCo Octane 45 2.0 (x2 – sequentially numbered serial #’s)
      SilencerShop through Dealer
      Form 4 Single Shot Trusts
      Purchased: 18JUN2021
      Form 4 Trusts sent 7JUL2021
      Check cashed: 14JUL2021
      Approved: 8AUG2022
      Stamp to dealer: (waiting)

      (2) Form 4 Trusts (sequentially numbered suppressors) received and recorded by ATF on 14 July 2021. I called them today to find out that they were both approved on Monday, 8 August 2022 and that they have 45 days to send approved forms to dealer. (Hopefully I will hear from the dealer NLT 22 Sept 2022)…. we’ll see how this ends.

      • #112239
        mvasaturo
        Participant
        • Posts: 8
        Join Date: 01/13/2020

        Finally! Only took 382 days from checks cashed to stamps (2) in hand.

        SilencerCo Octane 45 2.0 (x2 – sequentially numbered serial #’s)
        SilencerShop through Dealer
        Form 4 Single Shot Trusts
        Purchased: 18JUN2021
        Form 4 Trusts sent 7JUL2021
        Check cashed: 14JUL2021
        Approved: 8AUG2022
        Stamp to dealer: 15AUG2022 – Stamps and suppressors in hand same day!

    • #112273
      OverTork
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      SilencerCo Omega 300
      Purchased from Silencer Shop through local dealer in Ann Arbor, MI
      Form 4 Trust paper filed
      Check cashed July 10th 2021
      Approved August 24th 2022 – 410 Days
      Stamp arrived at dealer September 13th 2022 – 430 Days
      Picked Up September 14th 2022 – 431 Days

      • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by OverTork.
    • #112294
      Spartan69
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Form 4 Trust
      Surefire rc2
      Purchased: 09/10/2021
      Check Cashed: 10/04/2021
      Approved: 10/01/2022
      Received: 10/11/2022
      Total days: 372

    • #112295
      TwitrCowboi
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      Odin works Badlands (Paper Form):
      Purchased: 09/10/2021
      Check Cashed: 09/23/2021
      Approved: 10/14/2022
      Stamp to Dealer: TBD
      Stamp in Hand: TBD

      Q Trash Panda (E-Form):
      Purchased: 04/26/2022
      Certified: 04/27/2022
      Approved: TBD
      Stamp to Dealer: TBD
      Stamp in Hand: TBD

      So much for the 90 day approval time. Just glad I called the ATF today and they told me my first one was approved.

    • #112297
      Gato
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      CGS Hyperion (paper single shot)
      Purchased 7/28/21
      Cashed 8/18/21
      Approved 9/3/22
      In hand 10/5/22

      Absolutely ridiculous

    • #112320
      HPSilhouette
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 01/13/2020

      SiCo Omega 36M
      eForm 4 SingleShot Trust through SS Kiosk
      Purchased 3/1/2020
      Check cashed 3/10/2020
      Approved 11/7/2020
      243 days (Pennsylvania)

      • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 6 days ago by HPSilhouette.
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