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  • #107699

    Havok1
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Surefire SOCOM RC2. Paperwork dropped at my dealer 4/21.

    Check cashed 5/4.

    Now…we wait.

  • #107705

    DJPyro318
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    • Posts: 2
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I just got my Hybrid 46 stamp on 4-4-2020 and the check was cashed on 3-25-2019. total was 376 days overall.

  • #107709

    Jim
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    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Silencerco hybrid .46 purchased on 12/30/19 check cashed 01/20/20. Called today out of boredom was approved 04/10/20! No stamp call from dealer yet. Saker I got in march stamp only took 10 days. Seems strange all the rest of my mail is still timely. Why are stamps taking so long .

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by  Jim.
    • #107752

      blackjersey
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      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      You’re giving me hope!

      I purchased a Sandman-L on 12/9/19 and ATF debited my card on 12/27/19. I’m tempted to call to check!

    • #107753

      blackjersey
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Welp. I called the hotline and dude said mine is still pending.

  • #107713

    Motoxxxman
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    5 weeks, and they still haven’t even processed my payment. Anything I can do to figure out what the issue is? Delivery was confirmed, dealer has not received anything back.

    • #107726

      sprngfld9
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      • Posts: 0
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Received delivery confirmation 2 1/2 weeks ago and still have not been charged either, maybe payments aren’t being processed because of shut downs??

    • #107739

      970CO
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      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I feel the pain, mine was purchased 6/9/19, check wasn’t cashed until 7/25/19. Couldn’t get an answer as to why.

    • #107747

      blackjersey
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      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I think we are on the same boat. I purchased an Obsidian 45, Nomad-L, Osprey 45, YHM Resonator and a Wolfman all in first week of April 2020. ATF has not debited my card not even once. All Form 4s were sent at the same time on April 3, 2020. Delivery confirmation on April 7th.

  • #107714

    deucedeuceguy
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    • Posts: 5
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Called today, this time they gave me the same response of “your dealer will receive within 45 days”. I am at 42. Hung up & called dealer, just came in today, I’ll check postage but my guess is it just got mailed out like others have said.
    Unreal

  • #107732

    Motoxxxman
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Double post

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by  Motoxxxman.
  • #107734

    KSC4002
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    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 sent 12/15
    Pending 1/4
    Approved 3/26
    Tax stamp in hand 5/5
    Reviewer, CCWATKINS

  • #107759

    G960
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Want to contribute to help others stuck in limbo. Purchased a surefire socom mini 2 from silencer shop.

    07/12/2019 – docusigned the ATF form 4 – individual through Silencer Shop

    09/23/2019 – notified by Silencer Shop that the ATF “cashed my check” – no idea why it took over TWO months

    04/20/2020 – ATF approved my form 4 (I called on 05/06/2020 and checked to find out)

    Now waiting for the dealer to call me that the stamp is in. Hoping soon as 45 days would be 06/04/2020

    Hope this helps others. Good luck on your journey!

  • #107764

    ctnsupra1
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    • Posts: 15
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    SiCo Omega
    Forms sent: 2/12/20
    Stamp in hand: 5/7/2020

    85 days from forms sent to in hand.

    • #107981

      Justin
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      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      You sir need to buy a lotto ticket! The check for my Omega cashed 11/8.

  • #107788

    Ryanfrompitts
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Dead Air Nomad 30 and Sico switchback bought on backorder at Silencer Shop 1/23/20. Check cashed 3/3/20 and 2/15/20. Both Approved 4/13/20 same examiner. Stamps in hand 5/9/20.

  • #107809

    wasabi
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    DDM4ISR through SilencerShop
    Purchased 22 OCT 2019
    Form4 Mailed 04 NOV 2019
    Check cashed 14 NOV 2019
    Approved 24 APR 2020
    Stamp arrived 12 MAY 2020

    Check cashed to approval 161 days
    Approval to stamp arrival 18 days

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by  wasabi.
  • #107812

    phasst
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Sig SRD45 (purchased in Texas)
    Purchased 8/28/19
    Check cashed 9/18/19
    Approved 4/14/20
    Stamp received 5/12/20

    Check cashed to approval: 237 days
    Approval to stamp received: 28 days

  • #107820

    KSC4002
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    It shouldnt take longer to approve a form 4 than to grow a mustache

  • #107829

    Dave
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Sig Virtus SBR
    Purchased 5/26/19
    Check Cashed 6/19/19
    Approved 5/14/20
    Stamp received ???

    Check cashed to approval: 331 days

    Still waiting on a Sig SRD22X and a Sig SRD762TI-QD with a check cashed date of 6/20/19 that have not been assigned to an examiner yet.

  • #107858

    Aaron Kempf
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    • Posts: 4
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Q Trash Panda
    Purchased:9/3/19
    check cashed:9/9/19
    Approved:4/3/20
    Time from check cashed to approval: 207 days

    5/15/20: tax stamp arrived at dealer
    It took 42 days from approval to arrival at my dealer.
    The letter was postmarked: 4/28/20

  • #107873

    Zool
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Q El Camino
    Purchased: 12/6/2019
    Check cashed: 1/4/20
    Approved: 4/8/20
    Stamp rec’d: 5/7/20
    95 days from cashed til approved.
    Last silencer I bought (Sig SRD9) took 393 days from cashed til approved (with 1 month for gov’t shut down).

    Ingram Model 6 Submachine Gun
    Purchased: 2/15/20
    Check delivered to NFA Branch: 2/20/20
    Check cashed: 2/24/20
    Approved: 4/8/20
    Stamp rec’d: 5/5/20
    44 days from cashed til approved.

  • #107884

    RAVIC88
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    I’m at 93 days on a Form 4 individual. Silencerco Sparrow.
    Also at 327 days on a form 4 individual. AAC SD 762.
    Lost hope on the AAC so I’m hoping I’ll get the sparrow back before the summer is over. Fingers crossed.

  • #107888

    Fire Cop
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    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Thunderbeast Ultra 9
    Purchased 11/5/19
    Check cashed 11/19/19
    Approved 5/18/20
    Stamp in hand??????

    I passed 6 months from the check cashing date and thought I would just give the ATF a call to see if I was in the “pending” category and was informed that I was approved yesterday.

    195 days from purchase to approval.

    Now to begin the 14-30 day wait on the stamp.

    My other suppressor purchased in March is still “pending” and I imagine it will be awhile. I’m just happy to have one approved so I can start shooting with it.

  • #107927

    JG
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    • Posts: 4
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    What is the deal with delayed stamps?
    Check chased Oct 19:19′, Stamp approved April 27:20 still no stamp in hand.
    C’Mon.

    • #107953

      Jim
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      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I feel your pain mine was approved 4/10/20 still no stamp. Have called and gotten no answers. My last can I recieved stamp 8 days after approval. Must be something to do with the work from home thing.

  • #107929

    Adonis03
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Nomad 30 and Sandman K- silencer Shop

    Purchased April 28th, 2020
    Form 4 Docusigned May 4th
    Form 4 sent May 11th
    Cans Arrived at FFL May 16th
    Form 4 tax stamp cashed May 18th

    Let’s see how long this wait will be for approval….

  • #107954

    Motoxxxman
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    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Well I figured out why it was taking so long for my card to be charged. Apparently I forgot to fill in the dollar amount ($200) next to my credit card information. So ATF sent my application back to my dealer to fill the dollar amount in. My dealer said that was extremely common with people using their credit card as payment. I forgot to ask what the postmark date was to see how long it actually took to get from ATF to the dealer, I imagine it was a while. Side note; I get instant notifications on my phone whenever my card is charged, and they charged it at 10:30pm. So they’re definitely working long hours likely from home. In case anyone was wondering.
    So as it stands now:
    3/25/20 Purchased Sig SD556
    3/31/20 mailed documents to ATF
    5/11/20 dealer received application back to fill in missing info (dollar amount to authorize, $200)
    5/12/20 dealer mailed back to ATF
    5/22/20 credit card charged
    And now we wait…

  • #107965

    Sam
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    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Called and my AAC was approved 5/20, but sadly not the hybrid. Any chance the hybrid was batch approved and they just haven’t updated it in the system yet because of the long weekend? Just curious and not complaining. 147 days from cashed to approved is half of what I waited on my last ones…

    AAC SR7
    Form 4 Individual-Paper
    Purchased: 12/17/2020
    Check Cashed/Pending: 12/26/2020
    Approved: 5/20/20
    In hand: “will mail w/in 20 days”
    Cashed–> Approved 147 days

    SilencerCo Hybrid 46- White
    Form 4 Individual- Silencershop Kiosk
    Purchased: 3/18/20
    Docusigned: 3/18/20
    Paperwork Submitted: 3/19/20
    Check Cashed/Pending: 3/25/20
    Approved: Hopefully soon?
    In hand: ?

  • #107968

    kdiver58
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    • Posts: 8
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 Individual Silencerco Harvester 300
    Purchased 05/04/2020
    Mailed 05/04/2020
    Check cashed 05/15/2020.

  • #107979

    americanjetset
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    • Posts: 16
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Figured it might be worthwhile to chime in here since others are going through the same thing.

    Full timeline —
    4/10/2019: Check cashed
    3/19/2020 (344 days): Form 4 approved
    4/20/2020 (376 days): Certified copy requested via email
    4/29/2020 (385 days): Follow-up sent to ATF. Told “Being processed.”
    5/13/2020 (399 days): Follow-up sent to ATF. Told they “were still waiting on the Original to be imaged.” *exact quote*
    5/15/2020 (401 days): At this point I’m fuming. Follow-up sent with the same reply as 5/13. I asked wtf “waiting on the Original to be imaged,” means. Was told they were “having someone look into it.” Roughly 20 minutes later I receive word that they have found my original stamp, and that it would be mailed on Monday (5/15 was a Friday).
    5/21/2020 (407 days): Stamp arrives at dealer; post-marked 5/18 just as the contractor told me via email.

    TL;DR: Email them (nfafax@atf). They have contractors working through the backlog, and it’s entirely possible your stamp was never mailed.

    • #107986

      Levi
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      • Posts: 43
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I tried emailing that address you gave. NOT FOUND, neither is “NFAFAX@ATF.COM” an address either, can you clarify the email address in full. thank you in advance.

      • #107988

        americanjetset
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        • Posts: 16
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        It’s….it’s a government website.

        nfafax@atf.gov

        I thought that was self-explanatory.

        • #107996

          Levi
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          • Posts: 43
          Join Date: 10/12/2016

          you put .gov in the reply not at first mention. secondly you said to email..

          LiNkS aRe HaRd

  • #107980

    Frankb3
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    • Posts: 5
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    americanjetset, how did you find out you were approved?

    • #107984

      americanjetset
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      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I called them. (304) 616-4500

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