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    • #105415
      Claus DuBois
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      DDM4 ISR – Approved 09-30-19, 234 days from check cash date of 02-08-19.

    • #105417
      Brad
      Participant
      • Posts: 9
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Omega 9K

      Order Placed: 11/10/18 from Silencer Shop
      Form 3 Submitted: 11/15/18, 5 Days from Order Placed
      Form 3 Approved: 11/19/18, 4 Days from Form 3 Submitted
      Form 4 Submitted: 11/19/18, 9 Days from Order Placed
      Form 4 Check Cashed: 12/4/18, 15 Days from Form 4 Submitted
      Form 4 Approved: 9/12/19, 282 Days from Check Cashed
      Picked Up: 10/2/19, 20 Days from Approved, 326 Days from Order Placed

    • #105443
      Chris
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      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      The craziness continues. After seeing some of the incredible turn around times, I got curious and called ATF Monday the 30th and was told “pending” with an April 2020 time frame for approval. I was called today by the shop and told it was approved and received. Oddly the approval date was the 30th. My check was cashed July 12th. I’m not complaining, just very confused. Lol

    • #105471
      zacb556
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Good evening folks, I just got the call from West Coast Armory in Bellevue, WA that one of my Tax stamp just came in today. It was for the SRD 762 QD i still have one in the pipeline (SRD 22). When i spoke to the ATF last week they said pending with the approval by April 2020. I am stoked one of them came in early!

      Anyway, just thought I would let everyone know that i bought them the last week of June with the check being cashed July 3 and West Coast Armory receiving my tax stamp today October 7, 2019. I pick it up Friday…

      Regards,
      Zacarias

    • #105477
      Jeff B.
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      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Silencerco Octane 9
      Forms sent 6/10/19
      Check cashed 7/3/19
      Approved 9/23/19
      In hand 10/4/19

    • #105481
      SW131
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Bought Witt Machine and Tool 5.56 and .30 cal suppressors on 6/21/19 ish and my dealer received them 7/19/2019.
      Form 4 Paperwork sent to NFA on 7/22/19
      Check cashed on 7/25/2019
      Approved on 10/3/2019 (I think that puts it at 70 days from check cashed)
      Received……?

      On 10/7/2019, I called and spoke with Daphne to inquire about my Form 4’s due seeing all the approvals happening in the 60-100 day range and specifically with a check cashed date close to mine. I got the word they were both approved.

      I asked why some were being approved so quickly (not really quick, just quick in comparison) and some were still taking almost a year or more. She stated there was a system upgrade when I asked her about it, but also said that was not the only reason. However, she was unable to provide a reason for these quicker approvals. The only explanation she had is that “some” applications were pulled and fast tracked. She stated she did not know why certain applications were pulled for this fast track, like if it was a test of the new system, if it was random, prior approvals on file or any other definitive reason.

      I’m glad I was lucky enough to get a faster approval, but she would not say this is going to be the new normal time frame.

      Good luck to those waiting. I hope this is the new norm, but Daphne was reluctant to say it on record.

      • #105515
        tullamor
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        • Posts: 9
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        You are very lucky that your suppressor was approved so quickly. Most of the suppressors are taking a year or more. Some are in that 10-12 months range. Things are just really backed up at the ATF. I am approaching 400 days.Ridiculous the amount of time it takes to get an application approved !! Glad you got yours so fast. At least somebody is beating the curve.

    • #105485
      tullamor
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      • Posts: 9
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Sig SRD762Ti QD Tax Stamp Check was cashed on 9/18/18, still waiting. October 25th, 2019 will be 400 days. Called the ATF and she said today, wait 2 more weeks, you have hit the required waiting period, approval will come shortly. First Sig Suppressor I bought back in May of 2017 that finally arrived back in February 2018 was defective, sent that one back to Sig and they replaced it with an upgraded SRD762 Titanium QD. Replacement was quick. Good Customer Service. Sent the defective one back to Sig. But when you change the serial number its another year of waiting. No getting around it. This odyssey began in May of 2017, when I bought my first suppressor. So by the time I get my suppressor it will be 2.75 years. Long wait. I know there are probably guys out there, with longer waits than mine. Love to hear your stories. Mine is a tad bit unusual.

    • #105489
      Michael Westen
      Participant
      • Posts: 12
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      B&T HK 9mm Suppressor
      AAC Element Suppressor

      Mailed – 7/27/19
      Cashed – 8/2/19
      Approved – 10/1/19
      Form Received – 10/9/19

    • #105491
      Suntzu
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Long time lurker, but I had to make an account after I got the fast-track surprise.
      Silencerco Spectre 22 (2018 Summer BOGO deal)

      Mailed 7/3/2019
      Cashed 7/18/2019
      Approved 10/2/2019
      Received 10/10/2019
      This is not my first, For years I’ve been buying one every time I receive my paperwork from the last purchase.
      I mailed paperwork for a Hybrid 46 about 2 weeks after I mailed this Spectre, Wonder if the hybrid will be here in a few weeks or a year.

    • #105510
      Lee
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      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I think I’m going to have to make a phone call after reading some of these. Check was cashed on 2-5-19 and haven’t heard anything. It’s been 298 days since I made my purchase.

    • #105516
      SW131
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      You are very lucky that your suppressor was approved so quickly. Most of the suppressors are taking a year or more. Some are in that 10-12 months range. Things are just really backed up at the ATF. I am approaching 400 days.Ridiculous the amount of time it takes to get an application approved !! Glad you got yours so fast. At least somebody is beating the curve.

      I feel very fortunate. It’s almost like they did clear out out applications before beginning process of handling them. Some of the F4 trust applications are crazy ridiculous.

    • #105520
      scotthanus
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      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Dead Air Mask and SilencerCO Spectre II
      Check cashed 2-3-2019
      Approved 10-3-2019
      At dealer 10-10-2019

      • #105548
        tullamor
        Participant
        • Posts: 9
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        Scott your are ridiculously lucky to get your suppressor in this amount of time. Good for you. glad you got it early and in a reasonable amount of time. I am going on day 405. Just doesn’t make sense that it takes over a year to get things done and a suppressor approved. One poor soul’s suppressor took 604 days. Ya got be kidding me. 604 days!!!!! Good Lord.

    • #105529
      komodoj
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      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Called Atf today about a Form 4. Nice lady said what’s serial number, transferor and transferee. I replied with the info and she paused for about 3 minutes. I thought she hung up? She comes back to the phone and gives me a pending date of 7/15/19 then she says call back in about six weeks because it’s under review? Any of you ever heard this? Experience this? What’s it mean? Individual. Pending 7/15/19. Figured I give a call since everyone else is getting there approvals back from July this year? Thank you all in advance.

    • #105532
      Graham
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      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Just got a call about my Radical 30 cal. Ccheck was cashed on 7/5/19.. Tax stamp in hand on 10/16/19. I about had a heart attack. The last one took 9 months.

    • #105534
      rldjr32
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      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I was wondering how do you track your suppressor on the graph?

    • #105545
      Shawn
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Just called atf. Told that my yhm resonator was approved October 12th 2019. Check cashed Aug 2nd 2019. Tax Stamp not yet in hand. Hehehe

    • #105578
      akirax
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Omega Suppressor, Texas

      Check Cashed: 7/23/2019
      Approved: 10/4/2019
      Received: 10/11/2019

      73 days to Approved
      80 days to Received

      Just wanted to add my experience for info.

    • #105582
      Michael DeCarter
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Omega300
      Silencer co Form 4 to dealer
      purchased 12/22/18
      forms sent 01/09/2019 18 Days
      check cashed 02/06/2019 28 Days
      Approved 10/10/2019 244 Days
      stamp in hand 10/16/2019 6 Days
      296 Days

    • #105584
      sloppy_steering
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Silencer purchased 8/2/19, Check cashed 8/17/19, Got a call 10/19/19 that it was ready to pick up and I did so today. I guess I was lucky on that one because I’m also on day 224 for a can I purchased back in March. Both through Silencer Shop and both went to the same LGS. Go figure on why the one I bought in August came in first but I’m not going to complain.

    • #105597
      Shawn
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Yhm resonator
      Check cashed Aug 2nd 2019
      Approved Oct 12th 2019
      Stamp received Oct 21st 2019
      Reposting to show when I got stamp.
      Is there a way to edit a post?
      I just joined recently. Haven’t really explored the site yet.

    • #105611
      JG
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      New 22lr can purchased from local shop, Was not going to purchase a can that day until he told me how fast thing were turning around here in MN.

      F4 Individual SilencerCo Kiosk

      Purchased: 9/25/19
      Forms Sent:10/1/19
      Check Cashed 10/18/19
      Approval… hoping for 60 days! Just in time for Christmas!

      • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by JG.
    • #105625
      simjosh1
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      • Posts: 7
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Nomad – 30

      Check Cashed Feb-22-2019
      243 days and counting.
      – Called 10-18-19 – Still pending…

      Got some VERY lucky people here!
      I’m almost tempted to submit another form 4 to see if it comes back sooner!

      • #105626
        Shawn
        Participant
        • Posts: 4
        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        I think I got unbelievably lucky. I have a friend that had his check cashed Oct of last year and hes still waiting. Then I come along and and get mine in little over 2 months. I love that I got mine so quick, but then I think about you guys going on 200, 300, 400, 500, even up to 604 days and think that something is not quite fair about my luck. It could easily be me waiting a year for my stamp.

        • #105636
          simjosh1
          Participant
          • Posts: 7
          Join Date: 10/12/2016

          If there was an actual reason.. it could be understandable. Seems like pure luck though – which makes it worse! Gratz anyway Shawn!

          • #105637
            mart2224
            Participant
            • Posts: 24
            Join Date: 10/12/2016

            It’s not pure luck. Although it may seem like there’s no rhyme or reason to their processes, I assure you, they have a process and pure randomness isn’t it. They don’t shuffle up apps and and draw them from a hat. Take a look at the graph; it’s patternable given some other news that was shared on here. A little while ago, someone reported that ATF updated their system back in June. So, you can see submissions June and on are running like 70ish days after check cash. Then you can see the gap from Feb 2019 submissions to June. If it were pure luck, you wouldn’t see such a defined gap between approval times. What you’re going to see is anything submitted pre-June 2019 to run 240ish days and anything June and after appears to be taking approx 2-3months. Pre-June submissions must be running on their old process and they’ve not been able to get them on the new system. There’s also a likely lull in suppressor sales in 2019 because people didn’t want to sign up for a 1yr wait after the government shut down. Basically, if you want a suppressor and you don’t want it to take a long time, buy it NOW. I just submitted a form 4 and I expect it back in mid January if they cash the check in the next 10 days or so.

    • #105641
      ctnsupra1
      Participant
      • Posts: 15
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      SilencerCo Harvester
      F4 Individual
      Forms Sent: 1/7/2019
      Stamp Approved: 10/8/2019
      In Hand: 10/12/2019

      8 months, 25 days

    • #105648
      BMPBMP
      Participant
      • Posts: 70
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I just about fell over when I got the call today. I was planning on a February/March 2020 approval time.

      Surefire SOCOM 300 SPS

      Purchased from Tombstone Tactical: 7/20/19
      Forms sent from SOT: 8/12/19
      Check cashed: 8/17/19
      Approved:10/12/19
      Stamp received: 10/24/19

      68 days from the check cashing date to having it in my hand.

      I heard from my SOT that the short wait times are because of a new system at the Portland address.

      My 10.5″ 300BLK SBR is hella quiet!!!

      Brad

      • This reply was modified 7 months, 1 week ago by BMPBMP.
    • #105659
      jpd8888
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Ordered 2 cans 12/24/18, got hung up in the shut down arrived at LGS in March. Submitted Form 4 submitted to ATF on 3/15/19. One charged on 3/22/19 and other on 3/25/19 (I put them on separate cards so I could track it). Called today and both are still pending, 305 overall days but 224 days that ATF has had my paperwork.

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