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  • #81707

    Paul marcum
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Confused about Stevep, my check cash date is Oct. 6 2016, called today, said I still have months left to wait.. form 4 ind.

    • #81711

      chorizo
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      Go up the transfer tracking scatter graph. Oct 2016 check cashed form 4 Individuals are receiving stamps now.

  • #81712

    Paul marcum
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    I have, that’s what is weird.. why tell me I have months of waiting left. Just weird.. I hope it gets out of jail soon tho

    • #81713

      chorizo
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      Can you imagine having to answer the phone all day and answer all of the impatient questions on why their stamp is taking so long?

      You likely got somebody at the end of their shift on the phones and got an inaccurate and less than interested response. That is why this site was formed and why it is so important to enter your data in the data base. It is a more accurate overall view than a phone call response and the “one of” postings in a forum

      Have faith, by the looks of things you should get notification soon.

      • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by  chorizo.
      • #81715

        Scott
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        Seriously. They are a small government agency, be glad they are as willing to respond to random calls as they are. Every time some random person calls that is time that is taken away from them approving forms. Calling them will not make you get approved any faster, just look at the graph and you will have a good idea of when you will get approved.

        • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by  Scott.
  • #81719

    Dnut
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    First off, the line to call and request info on your submission is just that. Now, at the current wait times. Your not going to get any real answers till your well past the 350 day wait. And as for calling, your getting the same 4 ppl that are there doing exactly what there supposed to be doing. Answering the phone, and giving YOU the caller the caller what info is available at the time. So unless your transferred to a examiner,or a agent. Your not wasting anyones time. And here is why making such call at or about the end of the current wait helps. If you read threw some of the threads on here, and other places. You will find where there have been problems where stamps where either lost, or misplaced. US mail, or dealers can have hiccups in the system. Or how about the shadey dealer that didn’t call the new owner. And was found to be using his can as a demo can? For almost 2 month’s. So NO, calling is not going to make your stamp and paper work get done any faster, but if something is wrong. It may save you some time by knowing. And im here to tell you this, they aint going to call YOU if there is. Be your own advocate, thats the bottom line.

  • #81720

    Dnut
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    Confused about Stevep, my check cash date is Oct. 6 2016, called today, said I still have months left to wait.. form 4 ind.

    Id give it a week and call back. The person answering the call may have confused your F4 Ind. With the wait times on a F4 trust. I wouldn’t panic, hell maybe when you call back next wk. You get told its been approved, then the 15 working days wait starts. Yea, more waiting.

    • #81725

      stevep
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      dont be confused i called a week or two ago and was told by “stephanie” who answered my call that they were still in july and i had a few months left. i looked at the tracker and figured she said that so i wouldn’t call back anytime soon. i called back again a week later on a thursday and found one of my forms approved and the next form approved that sunday. less than a week after i was told i had months left. believe the tracker over what they say when you call. all your looking for when you call is if your pending or approved. thats it.

    • #81730

      TheTakeover
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      I have a hard time believing any of those few folks answering the phones really knows how long the wait will be for any of the forms or ind/trust. I wouldn’t take their comments as truth – they are probably just admin folks.

  • #81727

    Paul marcum
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    Thanks, I figured it was just a end of shift bad info call, that’s why I came to the forum, get as much info as I can, thanks again

  • #81728

    LORDofWAR
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    This thread is spinning out of control. Can you folks stay on topic or create a new thread titled “ATF theories and speculations”, “Nagging Nancy’s”? Just saying..

    • #81732

      chorizo
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      Well your “just saying” is wrong…what is the purpose of this thread? To post approval time lines….no, that is what the transfer scatter graph is for and the data base.

      The thread is to talk about issues surrounding form 4 individual applications not for you to follow one of approvals.

  • #81729

    Paul marcum
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    Or you can start a thread titled special snowflakes.. just say’n.. ‘merica

  • #81738

    Tyler
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    Approved!

    9/16/16 Purchased AAC Illusion 9mm
    9/21/16 Check Cashed by ATF
    7/20/17 ATF Approved
    8/7/17 Called ATF and was notified of Approved Status
    8/10/17 Picking up AAC Illusion as my dealer called to inform me he had received the Stamp.

  • #81745

    mrlovelace
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    Well just got some bad news sent two form 4s in last month and both were sent back saying credit card declined… Are you kidding me??? My dealer and I both went over the numbers on the paper they sent back! They were correct, my three year old even read each letter, my bank said everything was good on my end so please tell me how someone manage to make a mistake on two separate form 4s regarding payment? This kind of burned me up especially knowing I’ve been paying with a credit card with no problems. Now all of a sudden they can see how you look and make a error “judgement” thats how I feel and thats how Im calling it. If I wouldn’t have spent so much money on the one’s I have I would of told the guy to just keep it and screw the new hassle.

    • #81747

      mrlovelace
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      numbers*

      • #81752

        dq
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        Could it be that your CC company declined the transaction, assuming that it looked like a fraudulent charges (2x $200 to BATFE)? For future reference, it’s probably best to send the funds in the form of a cashier’s check or money order. You avoid encountering similar issues.

        • #81753

          mrlovelace
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          I spoke with my bank. They said they didn’t even show anything from the BATFE trying to charge my account. So I really dont know but I will from now on do cashier’s check or a money order.

          • #81759

            coagula13
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            Only thing I dont like about money order or cashiers check is you cant track it. That is why I used my cc, because I could see when it hit. But I can see you being burned… my options are either cc or personal check, that way I can track. But maybe there is a way to track with cashiers check or money order and I dont know, I have done few in my life.

            • #81769

              dq
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              “Only thing I dont like about money order or cashiers check is you cant track it. That is why I used my cc, because I could see when it hit.”

              I am not sure about other banking institutions, but Bank of America’s cashiers check gives you the ability to check on the status of their cashiers check. Just keep the check number and receipt, call into the customer service center and request for the status of the check. I was able to gather that information from Bank of America and obtain the cashed date.

              • #81772

                mrlovelace
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                That’s the reason I used the cc so i could track the funds being taken out. Im ready to overnight them both today. i just can’t believe I have to do all this paperwork over again. To top it off I have to drive a hour just to get to my dealer.

  • #81760

    Andrew
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    alright boys! Got my surefire 300sps approved. Just waiting on my lmt defender 2000 sbr. Both were purchased at the same time and submitted in the same envelope so go figure.

    Form 4 Individual
    Purchased: 10/13/16
    Mailed: 10/19/16
    Check cashed: 10/24/16
    Approved: 8/7/17

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by  Andrew.
  • #81761

    Andrew
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    alright boys! Got my surefire 300sps approved. Just waiting on my lmt defender 2000 sbr. Both were purchased at the same time and submitted in the same envelope so go figure.

    Form 4 Individual
    Purchased: 10/13/16
    Mailed: 10/19/16
    Check cashed: 10/24/16
    Approved: 8/7/17

    • #81763

      munfro
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      That’s what I’m talking about! I picked up my 300sps from my dealer last Tuesday been shooting every night when I go home having a blast! It’s a great can 300 blowout is so quiet

    • #81768

      Andrew
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      tracker updated

  • #81764

    04freedom
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    ordered 9-15-16
    atf check cashed 10-25-16
    approved 8-11-17
    received ????

  • #81765

    Scott
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    These posts along with the definite down trend in the scatter plot are encouraging. Hoping for my mid December form 4 in the next month then hopefully less than 6 months for a form 1 and 4 from last week

    • #81767

      Jeff
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      Same here Scott.

  • #81770

    Zac Higgins
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    Called and talked to Stephanie today was told they still have over 100,000 July pending.

    Form 4 individual

    Purchased 9/06/16
    Check cashed 9/16/16
    Approved ?

  • #81777

    stevep
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    update on my approval

    check cashed oct 12 2016
    approved sunday aug 6 2017
    stamp at dealer aug 11 2017

    gonna pick it up in about an hour

  • #81811
    BMP
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    ……then hopefully less than 6 months for a form 1 and 4 from last week

    There is no reason that it shouldn’t start to steamroll when they completely clear the month of July.

    Brad

  • #81815

    TheTakeover
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    I just wish we had even the vaguest idea of when they will be done with July forms or how many are left. The sad thing is, I don’t think even the folks at the ATF know how many more are left.

    • #81816

      Jeff
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      The only thing the ATF knows is how to take our money.

  • #81818

    Rhd04
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    I called last Thursday and the lady said they are currently working on August forms. I told her at least she didn’t say July.

  • #81835

    Dnut
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    So my dealer text me today at lunch. He got a friends form 4 INDIVIDUAL that came back today. It took 11 months to the day. His pending date was Sept.5th 2016. So since its not mine, im not updating the tracker graph. Just a FYI.

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by  Dnut.
  • #81848

    chorizo
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    On the scatter graph I count no less than five Oct 2016 and one Nov Individual form 4 approvals

  • #81859

    toonz176
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    The November 12th approval is mine. Called the ATF earlier today and they said it was approved on Saturday, the 12th. Looks like they’re still at least working Saturdays to get forms through.

    9 months to the day from check cashed to approval. It’s going to be a looooong week waiting for that call from the FFL.

  • #81975

    Jwmulcahey
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    AAC SDN-6 Form 4 Individual
    Forms sent 9/20/16
    Check Cashed 10/28/16
    Approved 8/12/17
    Waiting on stamp

    Updated tracker

  • #81982

    BRanger
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  • #81983

    davidlofton
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    First to me to post. Bought my Huntertown can 11/1/2016 and check cashed 11/16/2016. Just called ATF and they said I can expect mine to be fully stamp approved next month!!!!

    Saving my pennies for my new-to-me MK760 (wifey says “ehhhhh maybe”)!!!!!!

    HOTTY TODDY!!!

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by  davidlofton.
  • #81986

    Sandman Can
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    Individual Form 4
    Ghost-M
    Mailed 10/27/16
    Check cashed 11/1/16
    Approved 8/4/17
    Stamp received 8/19/17

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