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  • #95237

    john jackson
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Thompson Machine 30Ti
    Purchased 5.22.18 via SS
    Check cashed 6.24.18
    Approved 4.16.19
    Still awaiting stamp

  • #95238

    Robert Menger
    Participant
    • Posts: 4
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    How much of a delay did the Govt shutdown cause, I am at 268 days as of today, 22 Apr 2019, from time of check cashed.

    • #95251

      losthope
      Participant
      • Posts: 10
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I was told 7 months average before the shutdown and 9 months average after the shutdown. Mine took 312 day from check cashed to approval.

    • #95263

      JeffroJ
      Participant
      • Posts: 19
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      My latest was approved April 10th, 270 days, arrived at dealer April 18th.

      Have you called yet?

  • #95247

    unsung
    Participant
    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    It has been 327 days since my check was cashed.

  • #95250

    BadButton
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Dead air ghost 45M bought – 06/15/2018
    Tax stamp cashed on – 7/13/2018
    Tax stamp approved – 4/13/2019
    Tax stamp in hand – ?????????

  • #95296

    Jimmy McClendon
    Participant
    • Posts: 17
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Day 24 after approval, NO STAMP YET. This is such Horse$#!%…..

  • #95316

    louis
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 individual
    Sandman K bought 6-22-18
    Check cashed 7-15-18
    Senator’s Office contacted mid Nov 18 (don’t think this had any impact)
    Background approved 4-8-19
    Form 4 approved 4-21-19
    Can in-hand 4-26-19

  • #95320

    john jackson
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Thompson Machine 30Ti
    Purchased 5.22.18 via SS
    Check cashed 6.24.18
    Approved 4.16.19
    Stamp received 4.26.19

  • #95322

    Mark Ethridge Woodward
    Participant
    • Posts: 40
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Looking like 10 months for a Form 4 individual approval now. I wish ATF would get the Form 4 efile rolled out soon, this wait is ridiculous…

  • #95323

    billysorge
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Just got my Omega today, purchased from ffl on 4/10/18, check cashed 5/8/2018. Two things though, I spoke with the NFA 3 days ago and they told me the Omega was still pending and it already had been approved… The girl I spoke with said to call back in two weeks. That should tell you everything you need to know about the ATF! Second thing is I have a Specwar that I bought in Feb. of 18 and that one is still pending also. Or is it? I honestly think they have no clue when you speak to the customer service people on the phone anymore. They used to let you speak to your examiner before if you were over 9 months and they have stopped that recently for reasons unknown. They used to give you more information like your FBI clearance isn’t done or the examiner needed more info, time etc. now they tell you pending and that’s it, they don’t or can’t, see any more information when they run your serial number.

  • #95332

    GB
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Omega and Hybrid
    ordered July 10, 2018
    check cashed August 2, 2018
    Pending: August 3, 2018

    Octane 45 (SilCo promo can)
    Order Date: November 29, 2018
    check cashed: December 30, 2018
    Pending: December 31, 2018

    Still waiting on my second SilCo promo can.

    • #95380

      coagula13
      Participant
      • Posts: 24
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I am still waiting on SilecerCo to get to me so that I can start waiting on my can.. your doing better than me. My dates are July 6th and cashed date of July 24…

  • #95346

    NFAESM
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Silencerco 22 Sparrow
    ordered 5/27/18
    check cashed 7/10/2018
    approved 4/16/2019
    called ATF 4/30/19 and they told me it was approved two weeks ago and mailed to dealer.
    Dealer never called me. Dealer never replied to my email for status update. Dealer confirmed they had the stamp only after I called them.
    TIP: Don’t rely on your dealer to inform you!

    • #95351

      Jimmy McClendon
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      • Posts: 17
      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Same thing happened to me today. Not very happy about it….

  • #95361

    Travis
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    • Posts: 2
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Saker 762
    Check Cashed: 5/6/2018
    Background Check Approved Good: 4/17/2019
    Stamp Received: ?

    The evaluator at the ATF was great and seemed as helpful as he could be. 360 days so far. Whew…

  • #95372

    Dan
    Participant
    • Posts: 4
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Good news today. The gun shop that I purchased my SBR with Silencer called. And told me that one of my two stamps came in today. They did not have my SBR stamp.

    Purchase both on 6-22-2018
    Checks cashed on 7-12-2018
    One Stamp received 4-18-2018
    SBR stamp received ???

    I never got a call from the ATF. When I asked the gun shop employee who called me about why I did not first get a call from the ATF, she told me that “no one gets called by the ATF”.

    And they sell a lot of these SBR’s with silencers. Maybe five a week. She said that they should receive my other stamp “shortly”. I will call then again to tomorrow to ask how long the average lag time is. Surprised both stamps did not arrive at the same time. But happy one did.

    My silencer does screw off, so she said I could come in and bring the silencer home. But maybe I will wait a few days so I can bring everything home at one time.

    Update, called NFA about my SBR, she said it was in “pending status” and the usual “we are behind due to the shutdown”

    I thought they would have been processed together, or at least been approved at close to the same time. I wonder how many people die between the purchase date and the date stamps are in hand. Could it be that they are twice as thorough in checking an SBR as they are with a suppressor?

  • #95388

    Dean
    Participant
    • Posts: 10
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Must be crazy to start this process again after entering into the +400 day (SBR & Hybrid Can) club!! Bought another SilencerCo product from Gunbroker, transferred to my FFL last week.
    Bought: 02/09/2019
    Arrived at FFL: 04/26/2019
    Form 4 To BATFE(Portland): 04/29/2019-received
    Check Cashed: 04/30/2019
    Pending: 05/01/2019
    WAIT Times looking up?

  • #95394

    Carl86
    Participant
    • Posts: 4
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 Individual
    Dead Air Mask
    Check Cashed: 05/29/18
    Still Pending:04/29/19
    Approved:?????

  • #95397

    Cooks
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 Individual
    Silencerco Hybrid
    Purchased: 12/19/17
    Check Cashed: 12/29/17
    Pending: 1/2/18
    Approved: 5/3/19

    Purchased 500 days ago as of yesterday. Spoke with my examiner today and it is finally in her approved pile to be completed today. Funny thing is, I have been waiting so long I got to the point I almost wanted to make it to 500 just to say I did. How sad is that?

  • #95403

    Dan Mueller
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 Individual
    Sig 762-QD
    Purchased: 6/18/18
    Check Cashed: 7/2/18
    Still pending and wait clock is sitting at 306 days….Called NFA offices on 5/1/19 and was told they’re still catching up from the shutdown & still no examiner assigned. How much longer can they use a 34 day shutdown as an excuse for doubling the wait times on a background check that takes 5 minutes at a gun store over the phone?!? When I submitted mine, everyone was sitting at 150-160 days.

  • #95404

    northforkshootist
    Participant
    • Posts: 1
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    It has been over 21 months since checks were cashed in August of 2017 for me. I ordered 6 NFA items and 2 of those 6 completed at 13 months. The others are in background check.

  • #95415

    Shane
    Participant
    • Posts: 5
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Watching other approvals that were close to my submit date back in September 2018. I’m 7 months waiting and figure based on other approved dates that I will see something around the 10 month range. Just want to have can in hand before hunting season at the end of September this year. Not going to hunt with it just wan to show it off to the boys. Dead Air Mask.

  • #95446

    Wyoshooter
    Participant
    • Posts: 5
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Ruger KAC556F Machine Gun
    Sig SRD556 Supressor
    Sig SRD22X Suppressor

    Form 4 individual

    Purchased 3/23/2018
    Check cashed 4/3/2018
    Approved 4/29/2019
    Stamps/gun/cans in hand 5/6/2019
    298 days from check cashed until in hand.

  • #95474

    john jackson
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Just paid for a Bowers VERS 458. Let the new wait begin…

  • #95503

    unsung
    Participant
    • Posts: 3
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Check cashed May 30, 2018
    Approved May 2, 2019
    Received May 10, 2019

    345 days from check cashed, was averaging 220 when I sent it in.

    Two more still in “pending” jail.

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  • #95521

    Jimmy McClendon
    Participant
    • Posts: 17
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Approved!!
    Spikes Tactical Brown Recluse
    Check cashed 6/8/2018
    Approved 5/5/2019
    Waiting on Stamp!

    Called ATF from my cruise to Jamaica because I’m classy or obsessed….

    Got two more pending from Oct 2018 so I’ll probably see them Sept 2019…..

  • #95554

    HushMy762
    Participant
    • Posts: 6
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Had an interesting experience I thought I’d share. I bought three suppressors in the same week in June 2018, one from my LGS and two through SS. All checks were cashed at approximately the same time. The LGS suppressor was approved on 3/21/2019 and the stamp was received by my LGS on 4/2. The other two were noted as pending when I called twice in April. Called on 5/7 and got a very pleasant fellow who told me that the remaining two were still pending. I politely expressed my puzzlement as to how the first can with essentially the same check-cashed date was approved and stamp-in-hand a month earlier, while these two were still pending. He asked if I wanted to speak with the examiner; I agreed and got her voice mail. I very politely described how I was perplexed at the inconsistency, offered to provide any assistance she might need to resolve any issue that was holding them up, and sincerely wished her a very pleasant day. I called this morning (5/15) and was delighted to find that both forms had been approved the very next day after I left my voice mail. Hmmm….

    Tracker table updated with approval date, will add stamp-in-hand date when it shows up.

  • #95613

    Carl86
    Participant
    • Posts: 4
    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Octane 45k(Texas)
    Check cashed July 7th 2018
    Dealer called 05/20/19
    Stamp in Hand 05/21/19
    317 Days.

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