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  • #81277

    Andrew
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Form 4 Individual
    Purchased 8/19/16
    Check cashed 8/27/16
    Approved 7/13/17
    Waiting on stamp

  • #81333

    stevep
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    first time posting but i have an individual form 4 with a check cashed date of oct 12th i believe this puts me at right about 286 days of waiting. if we look at the graph we are now in a downward trend, if i continue the trend i should be getting approved any day now. i called last Thursday (5 days ago) and they said i was pending. anyone think im close or got a month or what? open to speculation

    • #81334

      munfro
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      I called a week ago as well with a check cashed date of September 26. was told another month but am seeing early to mid September approvals well over a week old. I would just say its safe bet to assume they are blindfolding auditors and letting them throw darts at the submissions to see who gets approved next.

  • #81336

    Mike
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    I think the flood gates are starting to open, just not with any consistency (like there ever is?) but the next few weeks to a month should start to stabilize with post-41f stuff

    • #81337

      Andrew
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      I think we are past the starting point. There are 14 post 41f entries spanning from Aug to Mid September. I think we are on a full steam post 41f train as of now. And that doesn’t even include all the folks who haven’t found out that they’ve been approved. That in combination with a low volume in general prob gives you enough to believe we are past it all.

  • #81338

    Yankeefan98121
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    Long time lurker, but I thought I’d chime in on my situation. I have a check cash date of 8/09/16. Being that we’ve all seen some August 2016 being approved I decided to call the ATF. Nice lady said they send a letter to my dealer for some missing signatures, and that it hasn’t been rejected, but not yet approved. I have a message out to my dealer so hopefully any confusion or missing signature issue can be resolved asap. I suggest anyone who is on the fringe of an approval just check in on it, doesn’t hurt and you can get in front of any issues before it jeopardizes your wait time any longer.

    • #81339

      Mike
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      Thanks for the info and good luck!!

  • #81360

    munfro
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    called again today, no dice still pending……

  • #81362

    Mike
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    LETS SEE THOSE DICE SOON

  • #81404

    Platz
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    Liberty Mystic X
    Pending 31AUG16
    Approved 25JUL17
    Stamp In Hand ???

    • #81515

      Platz
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      Update—Stamp in hand 02AUG17. 1 week from approval to in hand

  • #81408

    BRanger
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    Did all my paperwork with Silencer Shop.
    Purchase: 02/14/17
    Forms sent: 02/17/17
    Check cashed: 03/21/17
    Form 3 was disposed: 06/26/17
    Pending date according to the ATF: 03/23/18
    Real approval date:??/??/??
    Stamp in hand:??/??/??

  • #81410

    Chris Schmidt
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    I called for the first time last week to inquire about my pending date. Two with the same date and was told by Stephanie they are still in July. I didn’t even ask her what month they are currently processing. I just wanted to know my pending date.

    I am 240 days on both and it appears it may be several months more before approval.

  • #81421
    BMP
    BMP
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    I was told last week that with a March 7th check cashing I could expect it in December.

    Brad

  • #81423

    stevep
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    is the tracker not letting anyone else not submit data ? i wanted to enter in my form 4i data but it keeps saying error, error is marked but there is nothing marked and i filled everything out

  • #81424

    carnepo
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    Keep dreaming, Don’t expect it in under 12 months. I have friends that submitted first week in July and still not approved.

    • #81425

      Andrew
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      lol, there is at least a dozen to two dozen people anywhere between Aug 1 and mid Sep submissions that have gotten their approvals. Either your buddies are full of shit or they need to call ATF asap.

  • #81427

    alag8r
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    Form 4 Individual. Check cashed 9/14/16. Approved on 7/26/17. Waiting to hear from FFL with my stamp and suppressor.

  • #81428

    munfro
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    I am not really sure what to believe at this point. I was told by the end of July i would have approval for my late Sept Check Cashed Date. However when I called 2 weeks ago they said another month. but then at the end of that month wait it will probably be another month and another till its eventually approved lol. I have come to the conclusion ( once again.) to never trust the government hahaha anyone telling you when to expect your approval is spitballing as much as anyone. you wont get it til its in your hand and can only base an aprox time frame by what we see on here. all that you can do is hope but as they say you can hope in one hand and S*** in the other and see which one fills up faster hahaha. My problem is im drinking the Koolaid like everyone else and holding on to hope as everyone else this is the hardest wait i have ever done. been calling once a week and wondering if i should call today or wait it out

  • #81430

    Yankeefan98121
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    lol, there is at least a dozen to two dozen people anywhere between Aug 1 and mid Sep submissions that have gotten their approvals. Either your buddies are full of shit or they need to call ATF asap.

    ^^^^ this. I personally have a 8/10/16 cash date and it just got kicked back (missing signature) in July so i know for sure I’m at the top of the list

  • #81431

    Giggitty
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    First time poster, been watching/reading post for a while.

    Purchased SBR 08/29/2016
    Check cashed..09/01/2016
    STAMP APPROVED 07/27/2017

    Stamp received ??????

    Let’s see how long it takes to get from GA to FL LOL

  • #81432

    stevep
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    just called and got off the phone with stephanee she said and these are exact words “you are still pending.. just to give you an idea we are still wrapping up the end of july so you have a few more months yet” i call BS because i see lots of September approvals for individuals. im guessing i have 15 days to a month before they get to my October 11th

    went pending october 11 2016
    on day 294 of waiting still pending

    • #81437

      Jeff
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      I was about to put this in the general thread then I saw your post.

      Long time lurker, first time poster. I wasn’t going to make a post until I got approved but I saw this and I needed to share. I literally just saw a guy on the ASA’s Facebook post from 3hrs ago say he was approved today with the check cash date of October 11th. I bought my suppressor October 16th and a the check cashed date is Dec. 2nd…hurry up dang it.

      • #81447

        Mike
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        Where did you see this post? not doubting, just looking

        • #81448

          Jeff
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          I was on the Facebook app on my iPad, it was the post asking what people did this weekend. It’s the picture with a savage mk2 and an AR in the picture on the shooting table. It was the first post to show up when I clicked on the page.

          • #81449

            Mike
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            Strange, I only see 3 comments on the pic (none about approval). no worries!

            hoping my 10/19 hits soon haha

            • #81450

              Jeff
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              I swear to Chuck Norris it was there earlier lol it was between the hog hunting and the target pictures in the comments!

              • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  Jeff.
              • #81452

                Mike
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                All good haha I just called ATF, Stephanie told me same thing about end of July. She is so nice for having to deal with all the callers!

                • #81453

                  Jeff
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                  Join Date: 10/12/2016

                  No way they’re still in July lol There has to be a different pile the individual forms goes in to

                  • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  Jeff.
                • #81455

                  munfro
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                  Join Date: 10/12/2016

                  They still may be processing some random july mistakes or something but they are not solely in july my sept 26 check cashed date was approved on the July 30th I would be willing to bet youll see some oct approvals in a week or so

  • #81435

    munfro
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    Just called Melissa answered I have a checcheck cashed date of Sept 26 and approved on 7/30/2017 so that’s sunday

    • #81443

      stevep
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      great to hear, be sure to update the tracker giving me lots of hope!

  • #81444

    munfro
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    Tracker Updated!!! man I have been wanting to say that for a while. Now i just need the stamp. hopefully that wont take too long ive seen some horror stories of 3 mths hahaha

  • #81460

    Chris Schmidt
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    The tracker is becoming more friendly each day. Oct approval for someone. Congrats.

  • #81473
    BMP
    BMP
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    Keep dreaming, Don’t expect it in under 12 months. I have friends that submitted first week in July and still not approved.

    They filed as a trust or individual?

    Sales went to shit after the whole July/41F overload. Things will speed up unless they start firing examiners.

    Brad

  • #81490

    cwood
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    I guess NFA is still working on July pre 4F.

  • #81491

    Mike
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    WHO KNOWS MAN. WHO KNOWS.

    Stephanie is really nice, that’s all I got

  • #81497

    Eaglearcher20
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    I would say if you have a pre 41f form outstanding, I would call the ATF and dealer to see what is up. Seeing a bunch of post 41f approvals so there almost has to be an issue (or it was misplaced or something).

  • #81502

    Andrew
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    Join Date: 10/12/2016

    spoke with Laura (who unlike Stephanie is much more honest) and my Oct 24th app has gone through background check and pending examiners review. Might not mean much but certainly a progress. As far as where they are, she said they are processing Aug and Sept with only a tinny fraction of July app remaining. And those apparently have some hair on them. I told her a buddy of mine received a mid Oct approval and she said they have “agents helping” them process applications and they will grab them out of “first come first serve” order. Apparently they will not scale back on the amount of applications they process until they get inside of 6 months processing. Some good news!

    • #81504

      Mike
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      Thanks for the news!!

    • #81513

      Chris Schmidt
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      Great news. Two in jail with November pending dates. It may be time to get a couple more. Your post is the best news of the day.

    • #81530

      FranksHungry
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      Hoping working on Aug/Sept is for Individuals and Trusts.

      I know trusts can take longer because of all the BG checks. Are there separate piles?

      I keep being told they are in July. I must be talking with Stephanie.

      Pending: Oct 28th — F4 Trust.
      GA Optimus & AAC TiRant 45 M

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