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    • #79585
      droopy
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      do you guys think my LGS moving will slow things down for me? my form 3 was approved for one address that form 4 was filed for the transfer to be there but now they’ve moved few towns over. please don’t tell me I have to start over

    • #80022
      SapsSBR
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Submitted aug 4 2016
      Pending/cc charged aug 5 2016
      Approved may 15 2017
      283 days
      Control# 2017106xxx
      Waiting on stamp
      Form 4 individual. SBR

    • #80052
      wlemon94
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Submitted: 8/4/2017
      Pending: 8/18/2017 (no idea about when the check was cashed)
      Control#: 2017113XXX

      Not approved yet but other control numbers look promising (seen one approved with control# 2017118XXX). We shall see…

    • #80070
      littlegto
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Allen Engineering AEM5
      Purchased from Oakland Tactical 3/18/2016
      Transferred to my Kansas dealer and received by the dealer on 6/22/16
      Submitted the individual Form 4 to my CLEO on 6/28/16
      Signed by CLEO on 7/6/16
      Received from my CLEO on 7/9/16
      Mailed to BATFE 7/11/16
      Check cashed by BATFE 7/20/16
      Approved 4/24/17
      Stamp received 5/13/17 298 days (9 months and 24 days)
      Total time from date of purchase 422 days (1 year, 1 month and 26 days)

      • #80096
        BMPBMP
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        Sweet! Are you running this on a Mod clone?

        I ordered my AEM5 from Oakland Tactical as well.

        Brad

        • #80101
          littlegto
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          Yes indeed. Mk12 MOD 1 SPR. Knights stripped lower, gas block and FF RAS. Colt upper, LPK, BCG, buffer tube. Douglas barrel profiled by Compass Lake Engineering. Geissele SSA trigger. Gas buster CH. A.R.M.S #32 throwlever with a Harris bipod.

    • #80117
      BMPBMP
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      Sweet build littlegto!

      I am also running a Douglas CLE barrel. Mine has Franks match chamber. What are you getting for accuracy? Handloads?

      Mine is shooting decent with my standard load of Rem cases, 24 grains of Reloder 15 under 75 grain Hornady BTHP’s set at mag length. I think it might have a little more accuracy if I work with my load. I’m averaging .625 CTC @ 100.

      Brad

    • #80334
      munfro
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I called the ATF today, Im currently waiting on a surefire sps300 with a check cashed date of 09/27/2016 and a pending date of 09/28/2016 they are saying late July is when that approval will be as things are taking around 11 months. Bummer!

      • #80337
        Andrew
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        Join Date: 10/12/2016

        there are multiple early August approvals reported above, and that was 2 weeks ago so I’m assuming you are more likely to get there by the end of this month rather than July. My approval date trails your by 3.5 weeks and i was told late July.

        • #80339
          munfro
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          We were also told artificial sweeteners were safe, there were WMD’s in Iraq, and Anna Nicole married for love
          -Mr Nate from Shooter-

          all there is to do is wait i guess

    • #80571
      Chuck
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Anyone get an approval recently for form 4 individual?

    • #80572
      Dukester
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I wonder if they just put all resources on pre-41F submissions before moving on to post 41F. Haven’t seen any Individual approvals in a while and the ones that have been approved seem to have been mailed before July 13th (according to the tracker). I’m currently waiting on an Individual Form 4 postmarked Aug. 4th with an Aug. 8th pending date.

    • #80573
      Buchhakj
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      I haven’t updated the tracker but I mailed my individual form 4 July 25/26. Check cashed aug 3. Approved 5/26/17. I mailed a form 1 and 4 at the same time. Form 1 was approved 5/10 and form 4 5/26. Both approved by what looks like Carrie Fischer

    • #80580
      Andrew
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      I wonder if they just put all resources on pre-41F submissions before moving on to post 41F. Haven’t seen any Individual approvals in a while and the ones that have been approved seem to have been mailed before July 13th (according to the tracker). I’m currently waiting on an Individual Form 4 postmarked Aug. 4th with an Aug. 8th pending date.

      See a few posts above, there are two individuals with Aug submission dates that received approvals a month ago. Given limited amount of individual submissions, I suspect you won’t see as much activity as trusts, but I believe those should be closer towards the end of Aug at this point.

    • #80583
      mochool
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      Today I called to check status of my Individual Form 1 for the first time.
      Responce Pending.
      Submitted August 16, 2016
      Cashed check “Pending” August 23, 2016
      300 days, still pending

      • #80587
        mochool
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        Opps, I meant Individual Form 4, not one

    • #80606
      Chuck
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      I talked to the dealer I purchased from and they said they haven’t gotten anything back past July 8 2016 so far. I don’t know if he meant purchase on July 8 or went pending. Either way it’s gonna be while for my November 15th pending date.

    • #80609
      kazoo
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I thought by now I would have been giving a happy report on my first center fire suppressor. Unfortunately, the dealer made a mistake on my July 2016 ATF form. Everything was sent back to me earlier this year and I had to redo and resubmit everything again.

      I just talked to a very polite lady at the ATF. She told me that your original file date is wiped out and you have to go back to the end of the line and start over again. Guess I will not have a suppressor anytime this year either. Sigh.

      • This reply was modified 3 years ago by kazoo.
      • #80611
        JeffroJ
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        That sucks! Who was your dealer?

      • #80612
        Mike
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        yes details plz, wtff

    • #80613
      kazoo
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      I would prefer not to bad mouth my SW PA dealer as he has been good to me for many years on non NFA items. The problem came because they changed the forms literally the day that I purchased, 7/13/16.

      The dealer, for whatever reason, did not know the old form would no longer work. While he sells many different suppressors, his main business is non-NFA firearms.

      I am not pleased at all but my long wait is due to the dealer error and the ATF who did not send my incorrect forms back for 7 months. They were quick to cash the check but nobody caught the obsolete forms. I cannot imagine that I am the only one that this happened to but maybe I am.

      • #80623
        Grant
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        I also purchased a few days after the deadline. I hope I don’t have any issues since the dealer was also slightly unfamiliar with new method. I really feel for you. I would be so annoyed, I would see if I could cancel the purchase for a refund. It still doesn’t make sense to me. Suppressor manufacturer got paid, the dealer made sale and got paid, and atf cashed there tax stamp and got paid. But we sit and hope they throw us a bone when we make the businesses go round with our money in our pockets that fund all of them. Doesn’t seem right to me but I guess it is what it is.

    • #80624
      Dizzle
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      One of my bosses has been waiting nearly 2.5 years. About 15 months in,he found out he was flagged because the dealer he used, sold, and the FFL info changed. Obviously nothing ever got updated so they kicked it back and he started all over again.

      I will never buy another suppressor or build and SBR until ATF changes the rules. No way I am waiting over 12 months to use something I already paid for.

      • #80625
        Grant
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        I could not agree more. I’m right there with you

    • #80626
      kazoo
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      I see no reason even why there is any wait at all after the first one. They have our prints, pictures, and background checks already on file. We have complied as much a dealer has so why do we have to do it again and again each time?

      At least make the process times reasonable. The wait time should be no more than 30 days. These super long wait times of 90 days or more make no sense. Getting out to nearly a year or beyond is not acceptable. So much time has passed that there are new cans out there by the time we receive ours. Cancelling now doesn’t really get me any closer to the goal so I don’t have any better options and will have to stick it out another 10 months to a year. 🙁

    • #80640
      jwsm
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      I see no reason even why there is any wait at all after the first one. They have our prints, pictures, and background checks already on file. We have complied as much a dealer has so why do we have to do it again and again each time?

      At least make the process times reasonable. The wait time should be no more than 30 days. These super long wait times of 90 days or more make no sense. Getting out to nearly a year or beyond is not acceptable. So much time has passed that there are new cans out there by the time we receive ours. Cancelling now doesn’t really get me any closer to the goal so I don’t have any better options and will have to stick it out another 10 months to a year. ?

      There is also the possibility that the dealer might go under while you are waiting to get approved. It is rare but it does happen, especially with smaller outfits. You will have no recourse against the seller if that happens. Your money is gone.

      • #80643
        tlew
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        This is a real thing, and it’s not just about the retailer or dealer you buy from. I purchased an NFA item from a manufacturer, and because of the governments ridiculous wait times, I wasn’t able to find out that there was a manufacturing flaw until they were already out of business. Now I get to try and fix something that should have been warrantied or refunded if it would have been timely.

    • #80729
      Steve
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Form 4 Individual
      Item purchased 6/16/17 (Dead Air Mask HD .22)
      Paperwork sent 6/16/17 (Friday)
      Check cashed 6/20/17 (Tuesday… day after ATF received papers)
      Let the wait begin!!

    • #81059
      munfro
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Called the ATF again today, still pending ATF Check Cashed SEPT 26 2016 Pending SEPT 28 2016…. this wait is killing me over 9 months now, and I know im just B******* but the people on this site are the only ones that understand lol

      • #81071
        mochool
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        My form 4 individual has been pending since Aug 23, 2016, about four weeks longer than you’ve been waiting…. A year ago had no idea the process would take 3 plus months longer than what was the norm.

        • #81073
          munfro
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          Join Date: 10/12/2016

          Right, mine was purchased August 9th from out of state didn’t get to my local dealer til September 23, I’ll be coming up on a year from the date of purchase real soon

    • #81060
      Mike
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      we feelz you

    • #81085
      Nick
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Well got some good news this morning.

      Purchased 6/21/16
      Check cashed 7/25/16
      Approved 7/05/17

      Stamp in my hands???????????

    • #81224
      munfro
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      Called ATF again, spoke to a guy named Bill, pretty nice guy and very personable. How ever he informed me it would more than likely be another month till my late Sept approval. It’s killing me, I’m in a Facebook group where I guy had a date in March 2017 and received approval in july 2017 how the heckkk

      • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by munfro.
      • #81226
        Andrew
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        Obviously i believe you were told that but I don’t buy anything those people say. So many folks on here said how they would call and get a NO when asking if their applications being reviewed, just to find out later that not only was it being reviewed but actually approved. I personally called today and was told they are still working the last two weeks of July when i haven’t seen a third week approvals in a few weeks now. Post41 guys on here have gotten approvals 11 days ago so not sure it will be a month… prob just downplaying it so you don’t call all the time.

        • #81228
          munfro
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          Right I just want to hear good news for once, i wish there was actual logic on how and when these forms get approved. The worst part is being in the dark for a better part of a year. I keep being told forget about it, it will come, or buy more hosts, I just can’t seem to shake these last few weeks

    • #81229
      Mike
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      Just assume it is madness and try to distract yourself for at least a few more weeks 🙂 I’m still waiting on my double form 4 transfer… 14+ months total at the moment…

    • #81234
      Dukester
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      Got the call from my Dealer yesterday. Form 4 Individual (post 41F) was approved on July 7th. Pleasantly surprised as I had actually called for an update on July 7th and was told that my application was still “pending.” Dealer said this was the first “New Stamp” they had seen so far. They seemed surprised the application went through without any issues. Spreadsheet has been updated.

      Mailed 8/2/16
      Check Cashed 8/7/16
      Approved 7/7/17
      Received 7/17/17

    • #81275
      munfro
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      Join Date: 10/12/2016

      called the ATF again on my lunch break because I have nothing better to do…. they are still in the end of July according to Laura whom I spoke with. insert woe is me statement here …. that is all

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