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    • #111832
      Chief (Retired)
      Participant
      • Posts: 21
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      I received 8 F4 approvals yesterday with pending dates from March to September. Looks like they are willing to do batches to try and clear out the paper backlog.

    • #111836
      Dan
      Participant
      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Form 4 Individual- EForm
      Silencer shop
      Rugged Obsidian 9 FDE
      Purchased:1/02/2022
      Delivered to dealer: ?
      Check cashed: ?
      Approved: ?
      Stamp received: ?

      • #111893
        Dan
        Participant
        • Posts: 16
        Join Date: 12/05/2019

        Edit to above: Delivered to the dealer: 1/23/2022
        Edit: changed to Form4 trust(single shot trust) so I can certify remotely.
        Been sitting on “Ready to Certify” for 2 weeks on my account on SilencerShop.
        Myself nor my dealer have received the Ready to Certify e-mail yet.

        • This reply was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by Dan.
    • #111855
      Paul
      Participant
      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Ahhhhhhhh… 😉 356 days and still waiting. Last suppressor prior to these two took 270 days from purchase to pick up. Glad I’m in no hurry… lol.

      Peace.

    • #111856
      Paul
      Participant
      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Of course I will be interested to see if they really “git ‘er done” in 90 days with efile. That would make more purchases a serious consideration. Hell, I’m old. I’ll be dead before these get approved. 😉

      Tried to get on the ATF efile site today. It was down.

      “We’re working to get back online as soon as possible”.

      I was shocked!

      Seriously though, I went through a couple of total computer system changes before I retired and I realize that it often takes years to sort these things out, especially with all new software, regardless of the testing done before going live. Just be patient. 😉 lol

    • #111857
      Paul
      Participant
      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      From the ATF website regarding NFA item processing (Not sure what any of it means. I can only guess…):

      What we’re doing to improve
      ATF is currently applying additional overtime resources and providing an increased level of effort to the research and perfection of pipeline applications. ATF will continue to surge application processing 7 days a week.

      ATF is also diligently working to bring tax paid applications to the eForms portal for efficient workflow management.

      Lastly, all business processes are being re-examined to maximize efficiency of paper application handling and leverage technology where possible.

      Last Reviewed November 12, 2021

    • #111864
      PlugMarketXpress David
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Purchased: 5/11/2021 Surefire SPS From Bauer Precision(messed up the form 3 and put down wrong FFL probably would’ve waited 90 days to correct it if I hadn’t called to check and tell them to sent it to the FFL they had put down)
      Form 3 Approved 5/17/2021
      Shipped to dealer:6/6/2021
      delivered to dealer6/10/2021
      dealer signed, Form 4 mailed:6/11/2021
      Check cashed:6/25/2021
      Approved:TBD
      if anyone from Bauer Sees this HMU because I never got my free shirt for the delayed shipping.
      -@PlugMarketXpress

    • #111866
      cmiddleton1
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Form 4 Individual Paper
      Bought dealer stock 1-9-21
      Got the call last night that paperwork is in and ready to pick up.
      376 days.

      • #111880
        Dizzle
        Participant
        • Posts: 11
        Join Date: 12/05/2019

        When did they cash your tax stamp tho?

    • #111883
      mastergains
      Participant
      • Posts: 3
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      SF Socom RC2:
      Pending: 3/09/21
      Approved: 1/25/22
      Received:TBD

      RUGGED Obsidian 45:
      Pending:3/10/21
      Approved: 1/25/22
      Received: TBD

      This wait was brutal.

    • #111898
      Kevin
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Model: Dead Air Wolfman
      Form 4 Individual
      Purchased: 2/27/2021
      Tax Stamp Cashed: 3/17/2021
      Called: 2/1/2022
      Status: Pending

    • #111953
      Dizzle
      Participant
      • Posts: 11
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      OSS Helix 556k
      Stamp cashed 3/3/21
      Approved 2/9/22

    • #111954
      Kyle W
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Finally just called today.
      Purchase Date: 02/19/2021
      Check Cashed: 03/16/2021
      Approved: 02/13/2022
      Purchase to Approval: 359
      Check Cashed to Approval: 334
      Stamp in hand: waiting

    • #111956
      Paul
      Participant
      • Posts: 16
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Purchased Sparrow 22 and Deadair Nomad 30 from dealer stock 28 Jan 21. Checks cashed 3 Mar 21. Tax stamps and suppressors in hand 8 Feb 22. 376 days purchase to receipt.

      • #111960
        Carlos
        Participant
        • Posts: 2
        Join Date: 12/05/2019

        Paul, I’m glad to see you finally got your approvals. I’m still waiting for my April and May purchases but I’m expecting at least 11 months.

    • #111962
      wtxhunter
      Participant
      • Posts: 5
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Ordered 2 YHM Resonator K suppressors

      YHM Resonator K #1
      Purchased 1/21/21 (Dealer via Silencer Shop Kiosk)
      Check cashed 3/5/21
      Approved: 01/09/2022
      Purchase to Approval: 353 days
      Stamp in hand: Waiting

      YHM Resonator K #2
      Purchased 3/4/21 (Dealer via Silencer Shop Kiosk)
      Check cashed 3/18/21
      Approved: 02/11/2022
      Purchase to Approval: 344 days
      Stamp in hand: Waiting

    • #111964
      Ron
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      SOCCOM556-SC2

      Purchased 2/9/21 (Dealer via SilencerShop kiosk)
      Check cashed 3/12/21
      Stamp arrived at shop today 2/21/22
      Picking it up tomorrow

    • #111973
      James
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Rugged obsidian 9
      Check cashed 3/16/21
      Approved 2/23/22
      Still waiting on stamp to arrive at FFL

    • #111977
      Matt Stennett
      Participant
      • Posts: 2
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Thermal Defense Solutions Bantam II
      Form 4 mailed 3/6/21
      Check cashed 3/12/21
      Stamp arrived 3/3/22

      362 freaking days. But it’s finally here!!!

    • #111983
      Kenneth Miles
      Participant
      • Posts: 7
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Octane 45 (2)
      Purchased: 3/3/2021
      Check Cashed: 3/19/2021
      Approved: 2/18/2022 (the same day I called to check status, and was told it was pending)
      In Hand: 3/7/2022

      This is the second time that I have had a stamp approved on the day that I called to check. Both times it was 9+ months after check cashed, but is interesting that it has happened twice that way. I do not encourage calling and bothering the friendly folks at the BATFE on a regular basis, but seems that once you get to the 9 or 10 months, it might be worth a call.

    • #111984
      Dan fromthe South
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Purchase stamp 3/4/21
      Stamp cashed 3/27/21
      I’m still waiting 3/9/22
      I called ATF a month or two ago, but all they said was “it’s being processed”. I asked my FFL, and they said they get the stamp mailed to them and they would call me when it gets there. I don’t want to irritate my dealer, or the ATF, but what else can I do at this point?

      • #111986
        wtxhunter
        Participant
        • Posts: 5
        Join Date: 12/05/2019

        Dan,
        Hang in there. I am in the same boat. My FFL dealer said that it is taking 30-45 days for the stamp to arrive after the approved date.
        Ordered 2 YHM Resonator K suppressors

        YHM Resonator K #1
        Purchased 1/21/21 (Dealer via Silencer Shop Kiosk)
        Check cashed 3/5/21
        Approved: 01/09/2022
        Purchase to Approval: 353 days
        Stamp Status: Received 2/28/2022
        Total Time: 403 days

        YHM Resonator K #2
        Purchased 3/4/21 (Dealer via Silencer Shop Kiosk)
        Check cashed 3/18/21
        Approved: 02/11/2022
        Purchase to Approval: 344 days
        Stamp Status: Waiting
        Total Time: 370 days and counting

    • #111987
      tullamor
      Participant
      • Posts: 12
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Don’t feel so bad, I’m on day 404, called ATF twice, said its in the queue. Funny thing of it was, last Silencer I bought was approved in 6 months. Just crazy. What I would love to know, is what takes these guys so long to approve things. Like you have everything you need, with the computer age here, you would think it could be done in a matter of weeks, not years. With the touch of a key on a computer keyboard, you know instantly whether or not a person will be approved or not. And after multiple buys, that were approved in the past, you would think it would be just couple of weeks. Anytime you deal with the Feds, its like waiting for a glacier to melt, it’s that bloody slow.

    • #112008
      mdavis6
      Participant
      • Posts: 4
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      I just called the ATF and they said the wait time might be going over 13 months. The ATF has had my suppressor paper work for over 10 months now, and it is yet to be assigned to an examiner.

      I used silencer shop, the paperwork has a bar code the ATF can scan and my information is populated on the computer. How hard is it to hit a button to do a background check and mail a stamp? Apparently this arduous task takes over 10 months! One could build a new house or conceive and deliver a new human into the world in this time. The Government can figure out how to scan a bar code and hit a button in the same time period.

      This is unbelievable!

      • #112009
        Dennis Watkins
        Participant
        • Posts: 5
        Join Date: 12/05/2019

        Don’t feel bad I am in the same boat. Just got off the phone with them and still pending. I am also at ten months. Have three others I did not wait nearly this long on.

        Dennis

    • #112055
      nickdev47
      Participant
      • Posts: 7
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Form 4 Individual
      Silencer shop
      TBAC gen 2 ultra 7
      Purchased:10/1/2021
      Approved:4/11/2022
      Stamp received:4/19/2022
      Total: 199 days

      Form 4 Individual
      Local Dealer (Ohio)
      Silencerco Osprey 45
      Purchased:8/23/2021
      Approved:4/10/2022
      Stamp received:4/19/2022
      Total: 239 days

      Form 4 Individual
      Local Dealer (Ohio)
      Silencerco Omega 300
      Purchased:8/23/2021
      Approved:4/10/2022
      Stamp received:4/19/2022
      Total: 239 days

    • #112067
      Mark Ethridge Woodward
      Participant
      • Posts: 75
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Here you go, proof of life. An 8//26/2021 & 11/4/2021 Individual “batch” approval on 4/16/22. About right for the first one (close to 8 months) & a little quicker on the second one, around 5 months). My dealer (Eric of JEP Firearms, the BEST BTW!!!), received the stamps yesterday 4/23 with a postmark on the envelopes of 4/20, so 5 days to get the envelopes to the Post Office after approval and 4 days to receive them once they were mailed. Not too shabby on the approval turn around time & stamp delivery. Biggest plus for me is that I have NO MORE Form 1 or Form 4 items in the NFA paper queue. It’s all eForms from this point on for me. For those of you still waiting, especially you 1+ year guys, something isn’t right about that & I’d be calling ATF WV on a daily basis and calling, writing & emailing my US Rep & Senators on the same frequency and complain on every NFA board you visit…

    • #112132
      Tom Baily
      Participant
      • Posts: 1
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Has anyone seen any quick turnarounds on E-file yet I just did a sandman S E-filled today still waiting on a paper file 345 days on it griffin 30sd-k

    • #112203
      ctnsupra1
      Participant
      • Posts: 19
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      I efiled an F4 individual that went pending on 4/15/22, I’m at 108 days right now and hoping to get it within the next month or month and a half tops. We’ll see if we go over 6 months on what was supposed to be a ~90-day turnaround.

    • #112234
      GrimacXJ
      Participant
      • Posts: 7
      Join Date: 12/05/2019

      Form 4 Individual Bowers Bitty
      Check cashed 7/28/21
      Pending currently for 385 days

      Form 4 Efile Omega 36m
      Went pending 2/24/22
      Still pending and currently at 174 days

      When I call im told “we are averaging 100 days for Efile and 12 months for paper”

      Well I guess im helping raise those averages……..

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