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- 10/23/2020 at 9:27 pm #109304
Its just gives the appearance of lack organization, where after a form is approved to see stamps at the dealer within a week for a few, and others over 5 weeks. Based on what I read here. I am just shaking my head; ponderance.
- 10/25/2020 at 10:33 pm #109312
Have you received the tax stamp yet?
I got approved same day 9/30. Still waiting the call form dealer:( - 10/26/2020 at 8:25 am #109314
If this helps, while waiting for my approved stamp to get to my dealer, I compiled this:
Avg D to SIH
SS Wait Times F4 Ind. Paper = 10 Days
NFA-T Wait Times F4 Ind. Paper = 16 Days
T9/1/20 to 9/21/20 = 20 Days
T5/18/20 to 6/8/20 = 21 Days
T 5/1/20 to 6/5/20 = 35 Days
? 5/4/20 to 6/8/20 = 35 Days
? 5/13/20 to 6/9/20 = 27 Days
? 5/21/20 to 6/12/20 = 22 Days
? 5/22/20 to 6/12/20 = 21 Days
T 6/4/20 to 6/25/20 = 21 Days
T 5/29/20 to 6/20/20 = 22 Days
T 6/18/20 to 6/29/20 = 11 Days
? 6/5/20 to 6/29/20 = 24 Days
T 6/6/20 to 6/29/20 = 23 Days
T 6/4/20 to 6/30/20 = 26 Days
T 6/4/20 to 6/30/20 = 26 Days
T 5/31/20 to 6/23/20 = 23 Days
? 6/29/29 to 7/14/20 = 15 Days
T 6/23/20 to 7/14/20 = 21 Days
T 6/23/20 to 7/14/20 = 21 Days
T 6/10/20 to 7/29/20 = 19 Days
T 7/2/20 to 7/23/20 = 21 Days
T 7/27/20 to 8/10/20 = 14 Days
? 7/25/20 to 8/11/20 = 17 Days
? 8/4/20 8/18/20 = 14 Days
? 8/4/20 8/18/20 = 14 Days
? 8/29/20 to 8/22/20 = 24 Days
T 8/12/20 to 8/22/20 = 10 Days
T 8/11/20 to 8/25/20 = 14 Days
T 8/6/20 to 9/2/20 = 27 Days
? 8/25/20 to 9/4/20 = 10 Days
T 9/6/20 to 9/19/20 = 13 Days
T 9/1/20 to 9/21/20 = 20 Days
F4T Range = 10 Days to 35 Days
F4T Mode = 21 Days
F4T Median = 21 Days
F4T Mean = 30.13 Days - 10/26/2020 at 2:40 pm #109316
I looked at the cvs file. Its full of omissions, and errors users have entered.
Like hundreds have no dates at all. Other fields state F4 individual in transferee type then Form 3, Form 1 or Suppressor and other entries in FormType. Some entries have same dates all way across, from Purchase to StampRecieved.
Garbage in, garbage out - 10/29/2020 at 12:32 am #109343
Has anyone needed to request from NFA a duplicate or replacement stamp if one was never received by the dealer? If so, how long did you wait to request a replacement stamp, and how long did it take to receive this stamp?
- 10/29/2020 at 1:37 pm #109350
Form 4 individual e-file, check cashed 4/3/20. ATF simply says, “it’s in process.” Won’t give me the contact info for the agent processing my request. How do I get that info so I can contact them directly? Thanks!
- 10/29/2020 at 1:41 pm #109351
Form 4 individual e-file, check cashed 4/3/20. ATF simply says, “it’s in process.” Won’t give me the contact info for the agent processing my request. How do I get that info so I can contact them directly? Thanks!
It may not have made it to an examiner yet. Some forms take longer than others. The fact that some people get approved in 5 months definitely does not mean yours should. It can still take up to a year.
- 10/29/2020 at 2:15 pm #109352
@mochoolp : General guidance is to wait at least 30 days before sending a signed letter to the NFA Branch (current address is 244 Needy Rd, Martinsburg, WV 25405) or sending a scan of the signed letter to NFAFax@atf.gov.
Be sure to include your name, address, clear details around the request (requesting copy, stamp never received, exact transferee name, the associated serial #), and be sure to sign the letter (with a signature block for your trust/corp if applicable).
- 10/29/2020 at 3:20 pm #109353
Form 4 individual e-file, check cashed 4/3/20. ATF simply says, “it’s in process.” Won’t give me the contact info for the agent processing my request. How do I get that info so I can contact them directly? Thanks!
It’s way too soon to start checking in on the status. They won’t give you any useful information anyway. My last Form 4 took almost a year for them to approve it and I’m still waiting on the stamp to arrive at my dealer. My Form 4 prior to that only took 2.5 months…go figure.
- 10/29/2020 at 4:37 pm #109355
Saker 556k
Sent: 3/27/20
Cashed: 4/29/20
Approved: 10/6/20
Stamp Received: 10/29/20 - 10/29/2020 at 11:10 pm #109359
Is transfer tracking database down? I can not access the page.
“Sorry, the page you requested cannot be found.” - 10/30/2020 at 8:45 am #109360
Is transfer tracking database down? I can not access the page.
“Sorry, the page you requested cannot be found.”looks that way yes. should be back up and running soon. They’re pretty good here about fixing issues within a day or two
- 10/31/2020 at 9:47 pm #109361
Purchased Warlock 2 5/10/20
Check cashed 6/03/20
Approved 10/19/20
Picked up 10/30/20 - 11/03/2020 at 8:34 pm #109367
Saker 556. Ordered 06/01/2020 from SilencerCo ProDeal program.
Arrived at SOT 09/25/2020, nobody told me till I called SilencerCo on 11/03/2020. LOL
Form 4 submitted 11/03/2020. Pray for a speedy 1! - 11/05/2020 at 7:50 pm #109377
36 days after approval; dealer stated they still do not have the stamp. Telephoned NFA(ATF). They suggested writing and sign a letter to them and they will mail me a cerified copy of the tax stamp.
Its sad that there is a problem somewhere unkown with getting a stamp after approval. - 11/06/2020 at 5:45 pm #109389
3/16/20 purchased
3/25/20 check cashed
9/25/20 approvedToday, 11/6/20, dealer states they haven’t received a stamp. Should I do the letter thing even if they said they can take up to 45 days to ship?
- 11/09/2020 at 7:02 am #109406
5/29/2020 Purchased Gemtech Dagger II
6/4/2020 ATF took payment
10/19/2020 Approved
11/06/2020 Stamp received!Total 160 days from purchase to pickup. First stamp went better than I expected
- 11/10/2020 at 4:19 pm #109413
SOCOM RC2, bought late April 2020. Check cashed 5/3/20. Approved 11/9/20. I think waiting for the stamp in the mail is going to be the worst part…lol.
- 11/13/2020 at 5:54 pm #109444
SilencerCo Omega45K
06/09/20 Purchased
07/06/20 Check cashed
10/29/20 Approved
11/10/20 Stamp Received - 11/19/2020 at 6:10 pm #109470
OSS 338 HX Magnum.
Check cashed 07-16-2020
Approved 11-05-2020
In hand 11-18-2020Can’t believe how fast this was!
- 11/19/2020 at 6:35 pm #109471
And here I am, mailed in March, cashed in May, and still pending. They must have zero order to their process. Or some awesome examiners, and some terrible ones.
- 11/25/2020 at 11:38 am #109502
And here I am, mailed in March, cashed in May, and still pending. They must have zero order to their process. Or some awesome examiners, and some terrible ones.
Mine was cashed in April and they still have me as “pending”. I’m seeing approvals for F4 individual and trust consistently from May, June, and July. You would think there should be some kind of queue or order for this but it seems it is always left to chance.
ATF told me 7 months was the average right now (even though all the trackers show the recent averages trending as less). I finally gave in and sent emails to my congressmen to start looking into it. Hoping this lights a fire under them and I get the approval before Christmas….
- 11/19/2020 at 7:28 pm #109472
Form 4 individual
Sandman S
Purchased 10/28/2019
Cash checked-?????
Pending-?????
Approval?????Bought the can 10/28/2019. Never ran card for payment. Shop I got it from said they put their own card down and they ran that but not for sure on that. Called the ATF and they don’t know who I am or don’t have record for the suppressor when I gave them the serial number other than the original transfer to the shop. Told the shop and they said “ the fbi had problems with the fingerprints but it should be approved soon”. 388 days and counting. Any ideas?
- 11/19/2020 at 7:31 pm #109473
That is very fast Justin. Congratulations.
I’ve been waiting 50 days since approval for the stamp. Ugh. - 11/19/2020 at 10:21 pm #109474
Form 4 individual
Sandman S
Purchased 10/28/2019
Cash checked-?????
Pending-?????
Approval?????Bought the can 10/28/2019. Never ran card for payment. Shop I got it from said they put their own card down and they ran that but not for sure on that. Called the ATF and they don’t know who I am or don’t have record for the suppressor when I gave them the serial number other than the original transfer to the shop. Told the shop and they said “ the fbi had problems with the fingerprints but it should be approved soon”. 388 days and counting. Any ideas?
I’d be at that shop hounding the snot out of them every day til they give you answers, and proof that they actually submitted a form 4 for you.
- 11/20/2020 at 2:12 pm #109482
Trust me I’m messaging them around once a week sometimes twice. Just keep getting shady answers and no real solid ones. My second one I bought on 9/15/20 from a different shop check cashed 9/30/20
- 12/07/2020 at 3:42 pm #109549
Submitted Form 4 on 14Oct20. Check cleared on 26Oct20. Still not listed in system to check status as of 7Dec20.
I have 6 transfers currently in progress dating back to 13Mar20. I usually wouldn’t think twice about transfers until the 10-month point, but the transfer trends have me hoping that at least one of my transfers will fall in the average window.
- 12/07/2020 at 4:08 pm #109551
Right there with you, Brother.
Card charged 11/07/2020 and not in system yet, I think those speedy approvals were flukes! But for our sake, lets pray not.
- 12/07/2020 at 11:08 pm #109552
Also there with you.
card charged May 22, still pending.
card charged Oct 22, still not even in system yet.
At exactly 4 weeks, I was told there is roughly a 4 week back-log for them being entered into the system. But it’s been 6-7 weeks now, and still not there. At least I know I’m not the only one. I was starting to worry there was a typo somewhere or something that might cause me issues.Honestly, I’m starting to wonder if something is happening behind the scenes with ATF and Biden’s sheep.
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- 12/11/2020 at 9:19 am #109581
My form 4 that was cashed in October is finally in the system. And the one cashed in May is still pending. Crossing my fingers they batch approve them before the end of the year, or in the very least before Biden puts on his crown and has leverage with ATF
- 12/11/2020 at 11:17 am #109582
My October one isn’t in the system yet but was a few days behind yours. Hopefully, it will show up soon. On the plus side, I have a July transfer that was approved this week. The two from March are still not approved so doesn’t look like I’m getting a batch approval.
- 12/16/2020 at 7:59 pm #109618
Update: Form with check cleared on Oct 26th was available in the system on Dec 15th. It even shows a pending date of Oct 27th (just subtly reinforcing that nothing was done with it during that time).
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