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  • #74510

    Just18085
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    I am curious as to how often the form 4 individual information is updated. On one hand it says average 150 days then according to the chart we are still in April. My card was Debited June 20. Is it calendar days or business days? The silencer shop states that they are receiving approvals on august already.

  • #74516

    TrooperBrian
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    Currently you’re looking about 7 months 1 week on approvals for Form 4 Individual. The wait time is in CALENDAR days.

    As far as the SS website, you might want to read it again. They are in red numbers, meaning the dates are more than 7 days old. The date is 8/8/2015, not 2016.

  • #75742

    ddurbin
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    Any form 4 individuals been approved lately? Called last week and mine was still pending. Check cashed April 18th

    • #75744

      kennyfsu
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      Yes, my check cash date was 4/29 and I was approved 12/16.

      • #75748

        ddurbin
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        Damn. Hopefully mine is approved soon

        • #82230

          cletus
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          Don’t hold your breath. Mine was received on 8/12/16 check cashed 8/17/16 and I still have nothing. It is still pending.

      • #75944

        vikingtodd223
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        Do you know how long after your info was processed til your item was passed through? My form 4 check was cashed the 26th of July and just today, 1-4 it was entered into the NFA sytem.

  • #75746

    JMAK
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    So question on this….my check was cashed 2 days after i FEDEX’d the package to them. Most of the trackers say 40 days to check cash, or is that 40 days check cash to pending status?

    • #75747

      kennyfsu
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      Once your check is cashed it automatically begins the “pending” status.

      • #75749

        JMAK
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        So strange thing…my dealer told me the check was cashed….but calling the ATF for status they say it is not in the system. Should I be concerned here?

        • #75750

          kennyfsu
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          I would definitely ask your dealer how and where he got that information.

  • #75754

    Travisk0024
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    So to clear up some confusion. Your “check” is processed usually in the first 3 to 5 days. Then you are in “pending” status, but with there back up it may take 1-4 months to be inputting in the system and be truly pending. Then you wait for them to say approved.

    • #75764

      chorizo
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      Travisk0024 is correct as this is the new norm. It used to be that when the check was cashed, then within a day or two it was entered into the system. But with the huge surge in applications, there is a large backlog of applications to enter as it takes longer to enter your information into the system than it takes to pull the check and enter it so it may be cashed.

      • #75776

        JMAK
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        Makes sense now guys…thank you. So my dealer is correct about the check cashing, just BATFE is behind with input. I would imagine once in their system it takes the date the check was cashed in an as of capacity to start the process. Fingers crossed to have it by August.

        • #75778

          chorizo
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          The application takes the date and case number assigned. It goes pending when the application is reviewed, deemed complete and correct and all information is entered in the system…which as you see is sometimes later than the check cashing then each case is assigned in a first in, first assigned (based upon case/application number) to a reviewer depending upon their case load.

          Not magic nor is it a mystery, just standard Federal bureaucracy.

          • This reply was modified 9 months, 4 weeks ago by  chorizo.
  • #75829

    ddurbin
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    finally aprroved!!!!
    Check cashed: 4-18
    approved: 12-28
    Now to wait for the stamp to come in

  • #75833

    carnepo
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    I see a lot of posts with mentions of application “pending”, where are you getting status updates?
    I am currently over 6 months since check cashed.

    thanks

  • #75837

    pwalston25
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    You have to call the nfa branch and they will ask for your serial number and who it is being transferred to. Then they will give you the status. If you have only been waiting 6 months you still have a ways to go. At least 2 more months if not longer. Mine took close to 8 months and my check was cashed first week of May. This was with a trust and not the first item on the trust

    Check cashed 5-4-16
    Approved 12-21-16
    still waiting on stamp

  • #76579

    Disconnekt
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    Called Martinsburg today:

    LaRue TranQuilo on an Individual F4
    05/31/16 Check cashed
    06/01/16 Pending
    01/17/17 Approved

  • #76644

    Sandman Can
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    Paper F4 individual

    Check cashed 5-31-16
    Approved 1-11-17
    Stamp received 1-20-17
    Friday could not have been a better day. Got my 1st Can & a new President that loves this country. Things are looking up.

    • This reply was modified 9 months ago by  Sandman Can. Reason: Additional info
  • #76744
    Spy C. Weiner
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    I just wish more people would post to this feed because this is how I filed my Form 4. lol
    Although, what is here has helped me greatly.

  • #76775

    Sniperb4
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    Check cashed 3 Jun 16, approved 20 Jan 17, stamp arrived at dealer today 27 Jan 17. Picking up today.

    • #76781
      Spy C. Weiner
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      Woohoo! I bet you’re excited! Thanks for checking in

  • #77741
    Spy C. Weiner
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    Anyone else here that would like to report individual form 4’s? It would be much appreciated.

    • #77748
      Biggdawg
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      wish i could still waiting check cashed june 14th, 2016 hope i have it by end of march.

      • #77750
        Spy C. Weiner
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        Now more often it just seems like such a turnaround from what data has been reported. :/ .
        Most of the reports here have been around the 230-ish day mark and in which case you should have been free and clear.

        With that being said and in my opinion, I feel like they put a stop on the individuals and have been doing more trusts rather. They don’t make that sort of info public but it really seems to be that way because that is all that has been reported for the last couple weeks.

        I have one from July 6th, 2016. Each time I call they tell me something different. Last month I called and they said March and then a few days ago I called and she told me It would be more like the 10 month mark rather than the 8. Just bogus. Rant over.

        • #77751
          Biggdawg
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          right there with ya 259 days today or 8 months 14 days

      • #77806

        Dizzle
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        My checks were also cashed on 6/14/16. When I called to check my status on Monday, they told me im still pending and that they are currently processing June. Hopefully not much longer as ive seen people from May/June getting theirs as early as Jan.

  • #77752

    MP5 Mitch
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    Me too. 4 cans Form 4 trust. Checks cashed 6/24/16, still no word. Guessing the last week of March.

    • #77753
      Spy C. Weiner
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      Yeah, for trusts they are still in late May and barely into early June.
      As for individuals; they are some what closer to the 4th week of June as far as reports show. (These can be viewed on the transfer tracking)

      The difference of where they are in the forms is because of all the trust submissions trying to squeak in under the old rules. It basically backlogged the trusts form 4’s.

  • #77764
    BMP
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    Hey Spy, do the individual forms get sorted from the trusts? Or is it first come first served?

    Brad

    • #77765
      Spy C. Weiner
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      In theory no. They leave them intermingled and are not separated for different examiners.

      But if you could think of it symbolically as 2 lines. Both equal in length. One for trust and one for individuals. Both lines are in theory being helped at the same pace. BUT, what makes it different is that there are more in the trust line.

      Essentially because there are not as many in the individual line, it inherently moves fast in terms of date of approval.

      • #80066

        Andrew
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        I’m not sure that makes sense… if they leave them intermingled and do not separate trusts from individuals then the example of two lines doesn’t add up. Two separate lines (equal or otherwise) in of itself insinuates separation. Obviously folks are posting Aug approvals and Trusts are still in early to mid July, so something doesn’t add up. I called them today and they told me they do not get separated or reviewed by different department. They said its on a first come first serve basis. If that was the case, then how are the individual apps almost 30 days ahead…? Mine went pending late Oct so I’m ecstatic seeing aug individual approvals. Hope more people can post their Pending/Approval dates to see if there is a pattern or some folks simply got lucky.

        • #80073

          chorizo
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          They don’t separate them…..but the trusts go through an “extra” step to have the trust looked at. It used to be that trusts were faster, but since there are so many of them and only so many examiners to look at the trusts, they are taking about a month longer now.

  • #77804

    Bob
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    Sent 6/24/16
    Cashed 6/29/16
    Gunshop called Stamp arrived Today 3/1/17 !!

    Going to get it Saturday!!

  • #77952
    Spy C. Weiner
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    GOT SOME NEWS FOR YOU
    **Updated transfer tracking already**
    Sent July 1st, 2016
    Pending July 6th, 2016
    APPROVED March 1st, 2017
    IN HAND March 6th, 2017
    Individual form 4.

  • #78021

    kyle44
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    Form 4 Individual
    Bought: 5/5/2016
    Sent: 7/1/2016 (CLEO sign off delay)
    Cashed: 7/7/2016
    Approved: 2/27/2017
    Stamp Received: 3/7/2017
    Updated the tracker!

    Now the long wait for two more bought in Jan 2017… Ugh!

  • #78033

    skindog
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    My check was cashed September 9 2016. Should I expect my form 4 individual approval around the middle of May? Also are the individual form 4 approvals quicker than the trust ones

    • #78034
      Biggdawg
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      figure 8-10 months from check cashed date, and it seems individual are going a little faster than trust from what i have seen. trust forms are at 6-12–6-15 range and individual are now into july.

  • #78036

    skindog
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    Thanks biggdawg!

  • #78483

    Buchhakj
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    Credit card charged August 1st, 2016. Called today to get my control number and it’s 2017104xxx. All the ones I’ve seen being approved are 2016xxxxxx.

  • #78487

    vikingtodd223
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    So does you having a control # means it’s approved and stamp is on its way?

  • #78488

    Buchhakj
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    It is still pending. My question is more based on the control number. Why is mine 2017 verse 2016 like all the others.

  • #78497

    Touge Attack
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    Gemtech trek purchased today. I used the silencer shop kiosk. So it will be interesting to see how things go.

  • #79353

    Wiebes
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    Ugh……. Just got done calling. Completed my paperwork back in October of 2016 with my local dealer in AZ but just got notification that the ATF processed payment in March 2017. Wondering who sat on my paperwork so long. So long on my dreams of bringing home my first sbr this year……. Either way, I’m finally pending and have uploaded it to the system.

    • #82763

      TheTakeover
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      I have a feeling you’ll be seeing your stamp approved this year afterall.

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