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  • #75034
    Shooter_pdx
    Shooter_pdx
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    Submitted 2 form 1 paper trust post dated July 11. Had to file via paper because efile was down at the time. ATF ran my credit card on July 28. Right at 4 months now but nothing in the mail. There’s no NFA tracker on this site for form 1 paper/trust submissions (probably because most people are able to use efile) so curious if anyone is in a similar timeframe to me. I’m sure there were a ton of form 1 and 4 applications submitted at this time as it was one of the last days before the new ATF rules went into effect. Thoughts on timing and in general? Thanks everyone!

  • #75047
    Shooter_pdx
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    Update. Forms mailed/postmarked 7/12 (literally the last day before 41F) and card ran 7/27.

    Reading through more forums here it sounds like I probably won’t see anything come through until 2017, thinking maybe February.

    Guess that’s what I get for waiting until the last minute!

  • #75057

    KCMO-Kid
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    there is a paper filed form 1 graph

  • #76980
    Shooter_pdx
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    Still hanging tight and waiting for stamps. The average wait time for form 1 paper applications has increased from 6 months to 10 months since I sent in my paperwork. Was originally thinking I might see something in February. Now I’m thinking it will be May….

    • #76989

      darwhite
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      I am not seeing that in the data here but I don’t doubt what you are saying. I am still seeing 8 months from check cashed to approval/stamp received on the graph. Am I missing something or were you counting the days prior to the check cashed date?
      Thanks in advance neighbor… (Also in PDX area)

      • #77114
        Shooter_pdx
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        Hi Darwhite – I input my transfer info into the track shortly after writing that post, so it should be there now. I was basing my projection off of the “3 month” graph as opposed to the 1 year graph. I figured the 3 month graph might be more accurate in projecting forms submitted in July because it will show the period with the most applications. Just my 2 cents.

        • #77127

          darwhite
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          I would tend to agree with the 3 vs 12 months for sure. I’ll try to squeeze in the time to call tomorrow and get my tracking number.

    • #77113

      ctmrockwall
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      Shooter_pdx, I too submitted on July 12, 2016, and check cashed on July 18, 2016. Just curious as to your control no. Mine is 2017516xx.

      • #77115
        Shooter_pdx
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        Hi ctmrockwell. I’m actually not sure what my control numbers are. How did you find out with paper app? I didn’t submit an email address on my form. Do they come via email or do you have to call to find out? Thanks!

        • #77116

          ctmrockwall
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          I had to call(ATF 304-616-4500). Just have your Trust name and serial nos. ready when they ask for it.

  • #77130

    darwhite
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    Received (Check cashed?) 7/14/2016
    Control Number 2017482XX
    Operator told me to expect a late February or March approval.

  • #77156
    Shooter_pdx
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    Received/check cashed date: 7/28/16
    Control Number 2017947XX
    Operator didn’t indicate when I could expect approval but recorded message said wait time is at 8 months which would put me at end of February/early March.

  • #77215

    Zerohits
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    Sbr paper trust
    Submitted 6-9-16
    Check cashed 6-17-16
    Returned for corrections dated 2-3-17 (return arrived today 2-9)
    Control number
    1616706xx

    • #78419

      dgdamore
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      What corrections were needed if you don’t mind me asking?

      • #78420

        Zerohits
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        Had a extra number attached to caliber size.(typo)

  • #77410

    Az_shooter
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    SBR Paper Trust
    Check Cashed 5-31-16

    Still waiting to hear something. Have not called to verify status.

  • #77542

    MastaKevin
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    Form 1 paper trust
    submitted 6-18-2016
    Received 6-20-2016
    Approve 7/21/2016 YAY!!!
    waiting for stamps
    control number 450xxx

    • #77782

      MastaKevin
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      Edit
      Approve 2/21/17
      Stamp Received 2/27/17

  • #77820

    Bird-dogman
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    Form 1 paper, charge card hit 7/6/2016 approved 2/27/2017.
    Waiting for stamp.

  • #77821

    Bird-dogman
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    Edit
    That was a Form 1 Trust.

  • #78002

    AZdavid
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    I have been waiting forever to contribute to this forum!

    Mailed 6/29/16, Cashed 7/6/16, Approved 2/28/17, Received 3/6/17

    Man it feels good to take that lame pistol brace off my beautiful .300 Blackout!

  • #78348

    Pyroguy
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    I’m doing a Two-Stamp Gun (DeLisle Carbine) on a Paper Form One Trust. Submitted 20 June 16, Not sure when they processed the Cashiers’s Check I sent.
    Got a call on 27 October from ATF wondering what I was trying to make, examiner said “We don”t know what this is”. I sent prints and a historical blurb the next week. I asked the examiner how much longer it would take, and she stated “A month or two at this point”. That would have been Christmas.
    We are now past Mid-March, and it appears that I will beat the Ten Month Mark. At this point, I have to look at it another way – maybe I’ll set the record for longest approval. A year, perhaps ???
    Also have a very straightforward SBR Form 1 out there sent at the same time, and have heard nothing about that one either. What could they possibly be doing ?

    • #78439

      TB
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      Can I ask why your DeLisle is a 2-stamp? I did a Mauser conversion to a DeLisle style clone and it is only 1-stamp. And, unfortunately, back when Obama was elected for his first term, I had the pleasure of waiting about 18 months for a stamp to come back 🙁 . You just have to forget your even waiting at that point.

  • #78410

    Fredmisery
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    Just received 6 in the mail today (3-17-2017), checks were cashed on 7-5-2016 and forms approved on 3-1-2017. Info has been plugged into tracking, almost 9 months door to door

  • #79864

    jwsm
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    Form 1(make and register SBR), paper, trust:

    Sent July 5, 2016
    Received July 7, 2016
    Card charged July 11, 2016
    Approved May 9, 2017
    Waiting for stamp

    • #79891

      darwhite
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      Did you happen to get a control number?

  • #79893

    Pyroguy
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    I just got off the phone with the NFA Branch; They are currently working on submissions from the second week in July, 2016
    I stated “So…… forms filed during the 41F push will probably be a year total to process, correct ?”
    He agreed. He DID say that they should have mine done “Sometime in June”….
    At this point, I have stopped thinking that the mailman will bring something fun.

    • #79897

      Dave L
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      When was yours submitted?

  • #79904

    jwsm
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    Did you happen to get a control number?

    No, I didn’t:(

  • #79922

    Randall
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    Question to anyone who has received their stamp in the mail. Did you have to sign for it with USPS? I just checked my mail and it said they have a piece that needs signed for. I’m desperately hoping its my approval and stamp.

    • #79926

      M777
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      They have always arrived regular mail for me, no signature required.

  • #80226

    Cntrl23
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    Paper Filed Form 1, Trust – SBR
    Control Number: 2017471XX
    Purchased: 7/5/2016
    Forms Mailed: 7/11/2016
    Check Cashed: 7/14/2016
    Approved: 5/27/2017
    Stamp Received: TBD

  • #80281

    jwsm
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    Form 1(make and register SBR), paper, trust:

    Sent July 5, 2016
    Received July 7, 2016
    Card charged July 11, 2016
    Approved May 9, 2017
    Waiting for stamp

    Just wanted to update this previous post of mine to add some additional info but could not figure out how as there was no “EDIT” button so I figure I would do it this way.

    Sent July 5, 2016
    Received July 7, 2016
    Card charged July 11, 2016
    Approved May 9, 2017
    Stamp mailed out on May 17, 2017(8 days after approval).

  • #80308

    TheodoreEBayer
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    Due to an error (in a BATFE drop-down box re: mfg) on an earlier e-file F1, had to resubmit by paper (e-file down) on 07-12-16. They show received on 07-25-16. Checked 06-01-17 – over ten months and still pending. Advised currently working the second week of July, 2016, and would probably be another month until mine approved.

  • #80319

    Gabe
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    I got the email for the second Efiled SBR yesterday afternoon.

    ID – 3291XX
    Submitted – 07/10/16
    Approved 05/31/17
    325 Days in the Queue
    Database had been updated

  • #80331

    Deew715
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    Form 1 Trust Paper
    Sig Mpx SBR
    Sent 07/07/2016
    Check Cashed 07/13/2016
    Approved 05/20/2017
    Stamp Recieved 06/02/2017

  • #80798

    hammerli
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    Form 1 paper trust
    SIG MPX SBR- Michigan
    Mailed out 07-11-2016
    Check cashed 07-15-2016
    Approved 06-13-2017
    Stamp arrived 06-24-2017

  • #80803

    darwhite
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    Form 1 paper trust – (3 items, 2 SBR, 1 Suppressor)
    Mailed 07/11/2016
    Checks Cashed 07/13/2016
    Sent back to me for address change because I moved in the past 11 months… for transfer tracking purposes this is equivalent to approval.
    06/13/2017
    Entered into transfer tracking as 6/13/2017.
    I’ll reply to this post when I get the stamps to give others who moved an idea what the turn around time on that process is.
    (FYI – My understanding is that you need to call and tell them if you move. They will tell you what to do and it’s easy. It will delay your stamps at least a week or two while the corrected forms are mailed back and forth, but I was told the post office will not forward your items)

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